butterflywing

btw, can you explain the copyright thingy on those blocks? i always thought that if the blocks were old they were in the public domain. these are old traditional blocks, so how can they be owned by one person.?

sandpat

BFW...if you have questions about the copyright issues with the Dear Jane..please ask Patrice to explain it to you.. Admin has asked us not to post pics of the actual patterns on the thread or to encourage sharing of the patterns...so thats what I'm trying to abide by. Please feel free to ask them about it. Somewhere on the Dear Jane Cyber Party thread there is a blurb from Patrice about it...but I don't know what page its on.

butterflywing

thanks. i'm not trying to cause problems. i'm trying to figure it out. i'll ask.

Esqmommy

It's just one of those things. Brenda Papadakis was able to trademark and copyright her interpretation and has been protective enough to enforce it. The quilt itself is not copyrighted, just her patterns, the name "Dear Jane", the software she created etc. You'll notice that when anyone uses the term "Dear Jane" there is usually language acknowledging it's being used with her permission, etc. She has been able to do what many have not - market and own it, but not the actual quilt.

If you have any patterns or anything, you can betchyur bottom dollar it doesn't say Dear Jane unless it's done with permission!

butterflywing

the one posted in sentimental stitches is called "That Quilt". :lol:

sandpat

Yeah...thats what we are saying...

butterflywing

i get that part. different name. no mention of jane there.

however, the blocks are the blocks, no? so, the question is, can one openly offer the blocks from 'that quilt' on an open forum, knowing that everyone knows what 'that quilt' really is? or, even more obtusely, can i offer blocks 1 - 89 without even saying what they're for?

if no true name is mentioned, as in 'jane stickle cyber sew' is the copyright still in effect?

sandpat

For this board's purposes....I'd have to refer you to Patrice or Admin to answer that question...

patricej

"that quilt" at Sentimental Stitches is not Jane Stickle's quilt. it's a similar quilt made during the depression.

"Dear Jane" is a registered trademark serving as an umbrella over a number of copyrighted and or licensed products related to reproduction of the Jane Stickle quilt.

if you look at the Stickle quilt, draw your own renditions of the blocks and write your own instructions you are not doing anything different to the art student replicating a DaVinci.

if you start with a photgraph from a copyright protected book or other medim related to the Stickle quilt for example (the legally protected product is the root and source of your work) and then try to claim any resulting products as your own i would not want to be your lawyer. too "iffy" for me.

the Dear Jane software is the only computer program i know of that generates printable patterns for Stickle quilt blocks. therefore, we should not share printouts with each other that came from that software. we should not share photocopied block diagrams from any source.

this is not a complicated issue. if you want to share, then make sure you base your work on a block or quilt in the public domain. draw the diagrams yourself from scratch. write the instructions yourself, in your own words, from scratch. take your own photos of your own work, from scratch. otherwise, either recommend a source for others to buy them or a place they can find legal resources for free.

sandpat

Thanks for jumping in here Patrice....hope that clears it up for you BFW...