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Old 12-07-2010, 08:03 AM
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Are you a vegetarian?

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I dislike hunting all the way around, and I wonder what did that POOR animal ever do to deserve getting shot, left in pain till they were killed/killed outright. Which was here first? The animals were, we as humans ran off the natural preditors and now have an over population of certain animals.
Just so we humans could build houses in woods etc.
Sad really.
I do not eat Red meat or wild meat. I still have the right to think how I do, eating meat has no meaning in this. Deer are GOD's creatures, killing them kills a beautiful animal for no good reason.
It is sport hunting, even though some use the meat from the kill.
I disagree with hunting and I have the right to disagree.
I wonder how many of the hunters others would feel if the killed animal got dressed on their dining room table on good tablecloths, with the hunter saying oh you can just wash out the blood.
Or have an animal still alive and placed on your kitchen counter, back is broken and legs are still moving with the animal in severe pain?
Again with the hunter saying oh it's ok wanted to see what you thought of my kill. Then proceeded to start skinning the animal.
WOW, there are issues here that have nothing to do with hunting. It sounds more like issues with the person YOU KNOW. No one I know who hunts anything would ever disrespect an animal the way you described. There is no reason. All hunters I know hunt the legal limit, use the meat, and could care less about trophies. No one would dress an animal indoors (and never disrespect their wife that much if she objected). My husband grew up on a working farm and they raised their own meat. I am guessing that is bad too?

We all have life experiences that color our view of the way the world should work. If you are that passionate I can send you some very good vegan and vegetarian recipes.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by lab fairy
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Originally Posted by OmaForFour
Are you a vegetarian?

Originally Posted by DebsShelties
I dislike hunting all the way around, and I wonder what did that POOR animal ever do to deserve getting shot, left in pain till they were killed/killed outright. Which was here first? The animals were, we as humans ran off the natural preditors and now have an over population of certain animals.
Just so we humans could build houses in woods etc.
Sad really.
I do not eat Red meat or wild meat. I still have the right to think how I do, eating meat has no meaning in this. Deer are GOD's creatures, killing them kills a beautiful animal for no good reason.
It is sport hunting, even though some use the meat from the kill.
I disagree with hunting and I have the right to disagree.
I wonder how many of the hunters others would feel if the killed animal got dressed on their dining room table on good tablecloths, with the hunter saying oh you can just wash out the blood.
Or have an animal still alive and placed on your kitchen counter, back is broken and legs are still moving with the animal in severe pain?
Again with the hunter saying oh it's ok wanted to see what you thought of my kill. Then proceeded to start skinning the animal.
WOW, there are issues here that have nothing to do with hunting. It sounds more like issues with the person YOU KNOW. No one I know who hunts anything would ever disrespect an animal the way you described. There is no reason. All hunters I know hunt the legal limit, use the meat, and could care less about trophies. No one would dress an animal indoors (and never disrespect their wife that much if she objected). My husband grew up on a working farm and they raised their own meat. I am guessing that is bad too?

We all have life experiences that color our view of the way the world should work. If you are that passionate I can send you some very good vegan and vegetarian recipes.
My ex thought it was normal to finish killing and dressing on my kitchen table or my living room floor - yuck. And yes, I got to clean up after. Wasn't he sweet, he thought he did good by bringing me his kill as a gift to show here hun I love you YUCK!!!!!!!
Raising farm animals for food I see different. Killing wild animals and bringing even the meat that could be diseased into the home to eat is not safe.
My ex also thought it was funny to torment me about my pet rabbits, saying he could easily kill them while I was out and cook them up for a meal.
This is why he is an EX!
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Originally Posted by lab fairy
Originally Posted by DebsShelties
Originally Posted by OmaForFour
Are you a vegetarian?

Originally Posted by DebsShelties
I dislike hunting all the way around, and I wonder what did that POOR animal ever do to deserve getting shot, left in pain till they were killed/killed outright. Which was here first? The animals were, we as humans ran off the natural preditors and now have an over population of certain animals.
Just so we humans could build houses in woods etc.
Sad really.
I do not eat Red meat or wild meat. I still have the right to think how I do, eating meat has no meaning in this. Deer are GOD's creatures, killing them kills a beautiful animal for no good reason.
It is sport hunting, even though some use the meat from the kill.
I disagree with hunting and I have the right to disagree.
I wonder how many of the hunters others would feel if the killed animal got dressed on their dining room table on good tablecloths, with the hunter saying oh you can just wash out the blood.
Or have an animal still alive and placed on your kitchen counter, back is broken and legs are still moving with the animal in severe pain?
Again with the hunter saying oh it's ok wanted to see what you thought of my kill. Then proceeded to start skinning the animal.
WOW, there are issues here that have nothing to do with hunting. It sounds more like issues with the person YOU KNOW. No one I know who hunts anything would ever disrespect an animal the way you described. There is no reason. All hunters I know hunt the legal limit, use the meat, and could care less about trophies. No one would dress an animal indoors (and never disrespect their wife that much if she objected). My husband grew up on a working farm and they raised their own meat. I am guessing that is bad too?

We all have life experiences that color our view of the way the world should work. If you are that passionate I can send you some very good vegan and vegetarian recipes.
Unfortunately, many of the hunters I know do disrespect the animals and laugh about killing them. I have worked with several who also bragged about shooting cats and birds in their back yards - illegal to do where I live for obvious reasons. I have even had some tell me that they didn't like the meat of the animals they had killed, usually the javelinas, and that they didn't eat it!

We have also had major problems in my area with dove hunters shooting in inhabited areas around the barn where I ride. It used to be a regular occurrence to find them shooting across the road to the barn before the housing development was built, with no regard for the traffic coming along. Again, illegal here, but that never bothered them. By shooting across that particular road, they were also shooting into reservation land - another major no-no in more ways than one.

Maybe hunters in other areas respect the laws and the animals concerned more than the ones I have encountered. However, I know many horse owners in other parts of the country who have run into similar issues with local hunters and who fear for their horses' lives every hunting season.
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i was the oldest of 3 girls in my family and i was the one who got up at 5 to go fishing with dad and the year i turned 13 took my gun safety course of course had been shooting since i was about 5 we lived in washington state who had a lottery for doe permits my dad tried every single year for one and never got one my first year out i got one! dad was so proud and of course had to tell everyone. unfortunatly it was not a good year for deer hunters very dry no snow so we didnt get to fill it but it was a wonderful season with my dad it was also the last year i hunted with him because after that i hit that teen spot of not wanting to do anything with my family but i do have great memories of that year he never lets me forget my awful garlic fried chicken i thought garlic salt and garlic powder were the same NOT! couldnt eat fried chicken for a long time after that! lol
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I am a hunter as well! Last year was my first year to hunt antelope. My husband and I bird hunt and we hunt to provide food for our family.

Keep in mind that there are only a handful of hunters that just kill for sport and give the other hunters a bad name because of what they do/say. Not all hunters are like that. People have brought up a lot of interesting points. Hunting helps control over abundance of wildlife. Managing wildlife is one of the best things that can be done, this includes hunting.

I respect the people who don't like hunting. That is ok. We have our own different opinions and views. I understand why some people don't hunt and why they find it offensive.

Please realize that Emsgranny posted this topic to say how proud she was of her granddaughters. If you don't like the topic, don't post!

Congrats Emsgranny! That must have been exciting for the girls!
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:50 AM
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So good to know that someone will follow in our footsteps doing country things. We kill the deer for meat. We mix venison and ferel hogs and it makes the best ground meat. We never have to buy any. Of course any thing we can makes steaks, jerky and everything in between. Happy hunting to all.
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Anyone have a good jerky recipe? I've only used turkey and beef before in the dehydrator. But, if someone has a yummy recipe, I'd love it!
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:07 AM
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I use my dehydrator. Cut the venison in small strips, not too thick. Lay out and salt, pepper, garlic salt, onion salt or whatever suits your taste. Dry until leathery. Eat and enjoy. I put mine in the freezer for keeping. You can also buy seasoning. Some I like, others I do not. You just have to try a few and remember which your family likes and try to use them in the future. You can find them on the internet where sausage seasonings, etc. are found.
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Old 12-07-2010, 02:36 PM
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all my grandchildren hunt. My children all had to take hunter's education,either at school or class offered on Saturdays. They learn all the ends and outs of hunting taking those classes
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Originally Posted by Ilovemydogs
I am a hunter as well! Last year was my first year to hunt antelope. My husband and I bird hunt and we hunt to provide food for our family.

Keep in mind that there are only a handful of hunters that just kill for sport and give the other hunters a bad name because of what they do/say. Not all hunters are like that. People have brought up a lot of interesting points. Hunting helps control over abundance of wildlife. Managing wildlife is one of the best things that can be done, this includes hunting.

I respect the people who don't like hunting. That is ok. We have our own different opinions and views. I understand why some people don't hunt and why they find it offensive.

Please realize that Emsgranny posted this topic to say how proud she was of her granddaughters. If you don't like the topic, don't post!

Congrats Emsgranny! That must have been exciting for the girls!
Well said. Just because my daughter and I are vegetarians doesn't mean I think everyone is one. My husband and son aren't and I don't expect them to be.
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