catmcclure

In the 50's if you complained about your husband's abuse to the cops (or your friends) the prevailing attitude was "What did you do to make him mad." It was always the woman's fault for not being "good" enough or "submissive" enough. The last one is why I no longer attend a Baptist Church.

Lady Shivesa

Not gonna lie, I think there's a lot of helpful suggestions on there. Then again, I've always been a bit conservative. Still, I respect women's right to disagree with all that was said there...I just find it works for me! :)

angieh1964

love the babysitting thing HELLO its not babysitting when it is your own kid!!!!

and someone asked me once if my husband would LET me do something and i just laughed in their face and i told them my husband and i dont LET each other do anything-we do what we want we may consult each other but we dont ask permission that is why we left our daddies house!

catrancher

There's nothing wrong with doing everything on the list if it is gratifying to you; and, I would expect that in your life something to comes back the other way too. I also expect that this is a lifestyle choice you've made, not a mandate. The list here implies that the only thing the woman should expect from life is the gratification she gets from serving her husband. Further, children are not "treasures," they are people. They have their own needs, and not just from their mother, but from their father too.

It's not realistic or even healthy then or now to expect women to be completely self-sacraficing with nothing coming back in return. And I don't care how gratifying it might be, no one can give from an empty cup year after year after year.

kellen46

There were lots and lots of laws on the books regulating women and what they could or could not do....still even...I have a friend in her late twenties who wants to have her tubes tied, she has her family and is content. So she can't have one without her husbands permission or until she turns thirty....Has anyone heard about informed consent? She can have any type of cosmetic surgery she wants but not this. It is her body and if she wants to curb her own fertility with out taking a pill that might have long term effects that is her choice. We still are not in charge of our own bodies.
Back in the late 70s when I wanted a tubal I went to a Planned Parenthood Clinic they said I could not get a low cost tubal unless I might be Hispanic....so I was a Hispanic for a day to get my tubes tied...now that is just racist. What I am for is freedom of choice. If you want to be the kind of woman who submits to husband or church, OK, do it but don't push it off on everyone and don't try to tell us that it is the only right way to be. I don't submit well to anything but age and budgetary restrictions. It is all I can do sometimes just to obey all those road signs command me to merge or reduce my speed. I do because I am not stupid however I hate being told what to do even from a sign. Maybe I am just ornery and contrary as everyone keeps telling me or maybe I just like being able to think for myself.

catrancher

What if she's not married?

angieh1964

in ohio you have to be at least 25 2 kids and if you are married husband has to give consent same for a vasectomy i do beleive husbands have to give consent for a hysterectomy also my question is what is going to stop someone from lying about being married duh! i know men who have done it!

auntiehenno

This was the way it was until the late 70's when women were not chattle, and we could file abuse cases in court.

Lori S

Yeah...... I always cook in High heels as shown in the photo!! Makes me laugh!! Whats next mowing the lawn in heels?!

Lori S

Sorry I double posted