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    Old 05-14-2012, 02:49 PM
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    I have the Viking and Pfaff sewing/embroidery machines, but also have the Brother 10 needle embroidery machine. If you already have a good sewing machine and want something for embroidery I would go straight for the 6 or 10 needle machines (BablyLock or Brother), in which the 6 needle is probably equal to the Elegante, and the 10 needle is probably less than the Bernina 830.

    After 3 years I upgraded from 6 needle to 10 needle. Until you use these wonderful machines you don't realize the time they save, as well as the absolute perfect embroidery you get each and every time. For some reason you just never seem to get any puckers ever, and I do designs that are stitch intensive (last one was 70,000 stitches), and love to do FSL.

    Since they do not have the bed that a sewing/embroidery machine has, you can hoop cloth grocery bags, pillowcases, socks, etc. with no effort and no fussing with the material. And I just finished embroiderying quilt motiffs on many many blocks, as well as doing the entiere border on the 10 needle for a quilt that was about 36 inches wide and 60 inches long.

    It takes a bit of time to thread 6 or 10 needles at one time, but after that is done I just turn a baby monitor on in the room and can leave it to do its thing while I do mine elsewhere in the house.

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    Originally Posted by rosiesews
    Margie,
    I am trying to decide between Babylock Elegante 2 and Bernina 830E. what do you say about the quality/useability/sturdiness of the machines. I have always used Bernina but their price is daunting. I have a 165e currently that the embroidery module is dead on.
    thanks for your opinion.
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    Old 05-14-2012, 05:40 PM
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    That's a great idea,.. and,if someone does not know how to trim a post, then perhaps reference the post they are replying to.

    Originally Posted by Krystyna
    Not a bad idea, but if you choose to do that ... trim!
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    Old 05-15-2012, 04:11 AM
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    Originally Posted by TanyaL
    I would like to know more about your stabilizers. What KIND do you use for dense stitching of 60,000-80,000 stitches? You say your don't float and you don't spray. I've never had any float, but I do have some trouble with my fabric getting some puckers when I embroider with these dense designs. I have started basting around the outside edge of the area before I hoop my fabric and stabilizer and I find that that has helped. I think some of my problem may be caused by lack of strength in my wrists to pull the fabric taut enough in the hoop. When I get a small pucker, I toss the fabric and start over again and that is expensive since I am doing very large designs on suede place mats.
    The kind of stabilizer I use depends upon the type of fabric I am embroidering. For a non-stretch like the suede you described, I would use a tear away. For the number of stitches you are doing, I would hoop 2 layers with my fabric and then float one piece under the embroidery. The suede is rather stiff and should not need additional stabilizer.
    You will just have to test and see what serves you best. Definitely I would baste before I stitched. Sounds like you are on the right track.
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    Old 05-15-2012, 05:11 AM
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    Originally Posted by rosiesews
    Margie,
    I am trying to decide between Babylock Elegante 2 and Bernina 830E.
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    I have the 830. It does beautiful embroidery. I also have a Janome MC11000SE, which also does beautiful embroidery. I use my SE for smaller quick projects because there is no separate embroidery unit to attach to the machine and it takes up less space. have you tested the new Janome 12000? It's much quieter than the 830LE and also does beautiful embroidery. I like using the magnetic hoops that came with my Janome. Don't know if other brands have them. I prefer them over the magna-hoops I purchased for my Bernina.
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    Old 05-15-2012, 06:54 AM
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    Bettysew wrote this:
    After taking a stabilizer class with Floriani, I found that the general rule of thumb is that you need one layer of stabilizer for every 10,000 stitches. Since I started following that rule, my embroidery is much better.

    TanyaL wrote this:
    I would like to know more about your stabilizers. What KIND do you use for dense stitching of 60,000-80,000 stitches? ___________________

    I watched all of the stabilizer videos on the rnkdistributing.com site (Floriani products) and looked at the stabilizer workbook and resources on florianisoftware.com. (Very good resources.) The videos indicated that the 10,000 reference is for a 4 x 5 design. I'm doing a 60,000 stitch design in a 6 x 6.5 space. So the sq inches of my design are two times the 4 x 5. So I divided 60,000 by 2 = 30,000. Then divided 30,000 by 10,000 and figure I need 3 layers of stabilizer.

    I haven't tested this yet but wonder, does anybody see a flaw in my calculation? I did test with 2 layers and still had a very small amount of puckering.
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    Old 05-15-2012, 08:02 AM
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    Most of my embroidery lately has been with FSL, to which I LOVE
    making.

    In my OWN personal preferences I have discovered what seems to
    work best for ME, this is by no means what others may like or dislike.

    When I first started with FSL I had many issues, after talking to my
    local dealer, they gave me some tips that I tried and this is how I
    come to be on the right "path" for making my lace.

    Most of the tips they gave me was when I was using metallic thread
    but I have been using it for ALL of my lace and I like the results.

    I start with a SHARP TOP STITCH needle
    Use 2 layers of water soluble stabilizer (3 layers if the designs is really dense).
    Slowest embroidery speed as I can get.


    Lots of patience

    I have over 100k designs and I KNOW that using them all will never
    happen, but at least I have them if I need something (if only I could find
    it when needed).
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    Old 05-17-2012, 10:26 AM
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    Originally Posted by cmw0829
    Bettysew wrote this:
    After taking a stabilizer class with Floriani, I found that the general rule of thumb is that you need one layer of stabilizer for every 10,000 stitches. Since I started following that rule, my embroidery is much better.

    I wrote:
    I'm doing a 60,000 stitch design in a 6 x 6.5 space. So the sq inches of my design are two times the 4 x 5. So I divided 60,000 by 2 = 30,000. Then divided 30,000 by 10,000 and figure I need 3 layers of stabilizer.
    I finally stitched this out. Used a layer of fusible tearaway and floated two layers of medium tearaway. I added a layer of water soluble to the top. It came out PERFECT!! It is a little stiff but I don't think I could have done anything else without 1) changing the density and sacrificing the design or 2) accepting some puckering.

    This experience certainly helped me be more confident about stabilizers. Now I have only 8 more blocks to stitch and then need to make a quilt by...ummm...June 25. Yes, call me nuts.
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    Old 05-17-2012, 05:44 PM
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    Originally Posted by cmw0829
    I finally stitched this out
    Would you show a picture of one of your blocks or tell us the name of the design?
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    So glad your design came out perfect this time.
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    Old 05-18-2012, 03:48 PM
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    Originally Posted by TanyaL
    Would you show a picture of one of your blocks or tell us the name of the design?
    This is the stock image from the vendor - emblibrary.com - and my design came out just like it.
    I stitched it on a white on white that had very small lines through it that made irregular squares through the fabric. It's perfect for the designs because it has a bamboo-y look and all of the designs have an Asian flare. There will be nine in total - 6 florals and 3 others - crane, panda and butterfly.
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