Batting scraps experiment
#11
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Yes, this irritated me too. I dug and dug on their website and they hide that information pretty well. Grr.
#13
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Disagreeing here!!!
The Warm Co isn't being deceptive. They list on every label/bag what is in it. The package sitting by my table states that it is: 87.5 percent cotton and 12.5 percent polypropylene. I've yet to see it labeled 100% cotton.
They can call it Cotton Batting because of the high percentage of cotton. I have never seen the Warm Co call it 100% Cotton or label it as such.
The Warm Co isn't being deceptive. They list on every label/bag what is in it. The package sitting by my table states that it is: 87.5 percent cotton and 12.5 percent polypropylene. I've yet to see it labeled 100% cotton.
They can call it Cotton Batting because of the high percentage of cotton. I have never seen the Warm Co call it 100% Cotton or label it as such.
#14
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Having worked in a quilt shop for many years, yes, many people assume Warm and Natural is 100% cotton for some reason. The package just says, "needled, cotton batting." It doesn't mention anything about polyester on the front of the package. Yes, it is on the label, in tiny little letters. And the content changes per roll.
I like your idea for fire starters!
I like your idea for fire starters!
#16
I think it's the 'natural" in the name that directs people that way. "Natural" does not sound like polypropylene. It strongly implies a pure natural fibre product. As Peckish was saying, it' s in the small print on the packet and very hard to find at all online. A scrim is there for a purpose, and you'd expect it to be mentioned as a good point, such as "With polypropylene scrim for stability when machine quilting".
I also noticed that their 100% cotton batting of the same weight is named "Warm 100", which doesn't make it clear it means 100% cotton. I actually assumed 100 was the weight in GSM or something. If they called it "Warm 100% Cotton", I think they'd get a lot of customers saying, "Then what is the Warm and Natural?" Ditto if they made a fuss about the Warm and Plush being 100% cotton.
I have lost track of how many people I've seen saying they're using Warm & Natural "because it's 100% cotton". It seems to be what the majority of customers believe. I'm pretty sure they're aware of this and advertise carefully to continue the misconception. That's just about legal, but not particularly ethical.
I wouldn't call Warm and Plush remotely plush, either! They make a big fuss calling it soft, and someone sent me a sample the other week. I was startled at how stiff it was. I've never thought of a batting as being like cardboard before. They also call it "the warmest natural batting ever manufactured", and I'm pretty sure the QD Cotton Supreme is the thickest (and thus warmest) cotton batting around. Also where would wool fit in?
I really wish all battings listed weight and loft as default. There are a few other features to be aware of when comparing battings, but that would be a big start.
I also noticed that their 100% cotton batting of the same weight is named "Warm 100", which doesn't make it clear it means 100% cotton. I actually assumed 100 was the weight in GSM or something. If they called it "Warm 100% Cotton", I think they'd get a lot of customers saying, "Then what is the Warm and Natural?" Ditto if they made a fuss about the Warm and Plush being 100% cotton.
I have lost track of how many people I've seen saying they're using Warm & Natural "because it's 100% cotton". It seems to be what the majority of customers believe. I'm pretty sure they're aware of this and advertise carefully to continue the misconception. That's just about legal, but not particularly ethical.
I wouldn't call Warm and Plush remotely plush, either! They make a big fuss calling it soft, and someone sent me a sample the other week. I was startled at how stiff it was. I've never thought of a batting as being like cardboard before. They also call it "the warmest natural batting ever manufactured", and I'm pretty sure the QD Cotton Supreme is the thickest (and thus warmest) cotton batting around. Also where would wool fit in?
I really wish all battings listed weight and loft as default. There are a few other features to be aware of when comparing battings, but that would be a big start.
Last edited by ToBoldlyQuilt; 11-24-2022 at 01:25 AM.
#17
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The Warm Company is not being deceptive, read the label, it's all there. I read the labels on everything, the clothing I buy, towels, sheets and food. I like to be aware of what I wear on my body and what's in the food I eat.
#18
I had a look, because I was curious. This is searching within the UK. The first few quilting shop websites I looked at had it listed correctly, but then I got to this one, which calls it 100% cotton and does not mention the word "scrim", though they vaguely refer to it. They have photos of the packaging, which does not mention the scrim in any way, and does say "100% cotton".
https://www.1stforfabrics.co.uk/prod...ting-125-wide/
Is this the same product? As far as I know, the different one which is actually 100% cotton is called Warm 100, right?
Same with this shop, which specialises in batting, no less.
https://morrisworks.co.uk/products/90-warm-natural-wadding-by-the-metre.html
And this one seems to be in the US.
https://www.thequiltstore.com/shop/c/p/Batting-Warm-and-Natural-100-cotton-62-wide-x62022975.htm
So yes, there absolutely are shops selling it as 100% cotton, sometimes with close-up photos of the packaging, and the packaging does not indicate anything different.
https://www.1stforfabrics.co.uk/prod...ting-125-wide/
Is this the same product? As far as I know, the different one which is actually 100% cotton is called Warm 100, right?
Same with this shop, which specialises in batting, no less.
https://morrisworks.co.uk/products/90-warm-natural-wadding-by-the-metre.html
And this one seems to be in the US.
https://www.thequiltstore.com/shop/c/p/Batting-Warm-and-Natural-100-cotton-62-wide-x62022975.htm
So yes, there absolutely are shops selling it as 100% cotton, sometimes with close-up photos of the packaging, and the packaging does not indicate anything different.
Last edited by ToBoldlyQuilt; 11-24-2022 at 08:24 AM.
#19
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So yes, there absolutely are shops selling it as 100% cotton, sometimes with close-up photos of the packaging, and the packaging does not indicate anything different.[/QUOTE]
Because they are not showing you the entire packaging. The fiber contents is listed in it's own section on the package and they are not showing you that part of the bag/package.
Because they are not showing you the entire packaging. The fiber contents is listed in it's own section on the package and they are not showing you that part of the bag/package.
Last edited by quiltsfor; 11-24-2022 at 11:19 AM.