Bow Tucks pattern & E-bay seller -SCAM
07-31-2010, 05:40 PM
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Would you belive the E-bay seller 2002misty is still posting the Bow Tucks & Mini Bow Tucks patterns with a starting bid of $5.99, with free shipping. This is the same seller that sent me "photo copies" of the Mini Bow Tucks pattern last week. Penny Sturges' Operations manager has replied to my e-mail regarding this issue & I have left negative feedback for my purchase.
07-31-2010, 05:42 PM
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So she is copying a pattern and selling it as a new one? That is WRONG! Glad you left negative feedback. If someone thinks they can get away with this, they will. You should also contact E-bay. They won't tolerate it.
BTW - - She has blackened the name of "Misty"! For shame!!!! (That really is my name... Misty... but my e-bay name is lovinquilting... just in case anyone might think that person is me 8-) )
BTW - - She has blackened the name of "Misty"! For shame!!!! (That really is my name... Misty... but my e-bay name is lovinquilting... just in case anyone might think that person is me 8-) )
07-31-2010, 05:50 PM
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I did file a complaint with E-bay indicating the pattern was a "fake/forgery". The 2002misty seller refunded my money - with no communication back, but she is still permitted to post on E-bay. If you look at this sellers feedback, she has sold a number of these patterns. I hope future bidders see my feedback about the patterns being photo copies.
07-31-2010, 06:04 PM
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I have had this happen to me before... got an e-copy of a book. I e-mailed the seller and told her that she either refund my money and removed her listing, or I would turn her in for copyright violation. She did not have the right to scan a book and send it out as a PDF. She refunded my money. I was afraid to leave negative feedback at the time because at the time, sellers could still leave negative feedback for buyers and I wanted to keep my 100% rating.
Give e-Bay time. They will probably look into it and will put her account on suspension.
Give e-Bay time. They will probably look into it and will put her account on suspension.
07-31-2010, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MistyMarie
So she is copying a pattern and selling it as a new one? That is WRONG! Glad you left negative feedback. If someone thinks they can get away with this, they will. You should also contact E-bay. They won't tolerate it.
BTW - - She has blackened the name of "Misty"! For shame!!!! (That really is my name... Misty... but my e-bay name is lovinquilting... just in case anyone might think that person is me 8-) )
BTW - - She has blackened the name of "Misty"! For shame!!!! (That really is my name... Misty... but my e-bay name is lovinquilting... just in case anyone might think that person is me 8-) )
Donnajean, I am glad you reported her. It really isn't fair that she is making a profit off of someone else's hard work. All it takes is one person to spoil it for everyone.
07-31-2010, 06:12 PM
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That is just wrong. And I am sure she knows it. What most people do not realize is that not just the seller can get in trouble, the buyers can as well.
A few years ago I bought a design for my embroidery machine on cd. In her ad she said it was an original. And she had sold hundreds. I was new to machine embroidery and had never seen the design. Well, I got a letter, well over a year later, stating that I had purchased stolen property. WTH? I did not. The wanted me to go to TX and a bunch of other stuff or I could pay 300 bucks. So ridiculous. After some research I did find out that the demands were pretty much just as much a scam as the seller was pulling. I was still scared they would come after me, but they never did, thank goodness.
Donna Jean, you did right by turning her in and demanding a refund. That puts you in the clear if the owner of the pattern ever decides to prosecute.
When I first saw people selling the bags here I went over my Bow Tuck patterns, purchased at a LQS, and I could not find anywhere on it that says the pattern is copyrighted. I am sure that does not mean it isn't, and maybe the more recent ones do say that they are. I have no idea. Even so, I still think it is wrong to sell copies of an original pattern, unless it is your own.
A few years ago I bought a design for my embroidery machine on cd. In her ad she said it was an original. And she had sold hundreds. I was new to machine embroidery and had never seen the design. Well, I got a letter, well over a year later, stating that I had purchased stolen property. WTH? I did not. The wanted me to go to TX and a bunch of other stuff or I could pay 300 bucks. So ridiculous. After some research I did find out that the demands were pretty much just as much a scam as the seller was pulling. I was still scared they would come after me, but they never did, thank goodness.
Donna Jean, you did right by turning her in and demanding a refund. That puts you in the clear if the owner of the pattern ever decides to prosecute.
When I first saw people selling the bags here I went over my Bow Tuck patterns, purchased at a LQS, and I could not find anywhere on it that says the pattern is copyrighted. I am sure that does not mean it isn't, and maybe the more recent ones do say that they are. I have no idea. Even so, I still think it is wrong to sell copies of an original pattern, unless it is your own.
07-31-2010, 06:13 PM
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Well, yesterday I gave the 2002misty seller name, her mailing address & e-mail address to Penny's Organization Manager-who responded to my e-mail when I notified the designer by e-mail. I just notified her again tonight about the current posting on E-bay by the same seller. I'm assuming that Penny had the patterns copyrighted, but I don't see any indication on the photo copies I received.
Originally Posted by MistyMarie
I have had this happen to me before... got an e-copy of a book. I e-mailed the seller and told her that she either refund my money and removed her listing, or I would turn her in for copyright violation. She did not have the right to scan a book and send it out as a PDF. She refunded my money. I was afraid to leave negative feedback at the time because at the time, sellers could still leave negative feedback for buyers and I wanted to keep my 100% rating.
Give e-Bay time. They will probably look into it and will put her account on suspension.
Give e-Bay time. They will probably look into it and will put her account on suspension.
07-31-2010, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Katia
That is just wrong. And I am sure she knows it. What most people do not realize is that not just the seller can get in trouble, the buyers can as well.
A few years ago I bought a design for my embroidery machine on cd. In her ad she said it was an original. And she had sold hundreds. I was new to machine embroidery and had never seen the design. Well, I got a letter, well over a year later, stating that I had purchased stolen property. WTH? I did not. The wanted me to go to TX and a bunch of other stuff or I could pay 300 bucks. So ridiculous. After some research I did find out that the demands were pretty much just as much a scam as the seller was pulling. I was still scared they would come after me, but they never did, thank goodness.
Donna Jean, you did right by turning her in and demanding a refund. That puts you in the clear if the owner of the pattern ever decides to prosecute.
When I first saw people selling the bags here I went over my Bow Tuck patterns, purchased at a LQS, and I could not find anywhere on it that says the pattern is copyrighted. I am sure that does not mean it isn't, and maybe the more recent ones do say that they are. I have no idea. Even so, I still think it is wrong to sell copies of an original pattern, unless it is your own.
A few years ago I bought a design for my embroidery machine on cd. In her ad she said it was an original. And she had sold hundreds. I was new to machine embroidery and had never seen the design. Well, I got a letter, well over a year later, stating that I had purchased stolen property. WTH? I did not. The wanted me to go to TX and a bunch of other stuff or I could pay 300 bucks. So ridiculous. After some research I did find out that the demands were pretty much just as much a scam as the seller was pulling. I was still scared they would come after me, but they never did, thank goodness.
Donna Jean, you did right by turning her in and demanding a refund. That puts you in the clear if the owner of the pattern ever decides to prosecute.
When I first saw people selling the bags here I went over my Bow Tuck patterns, purchased at a LQS, and I could not find anywhere on it that says the pattern is copyrighted. I am sure that does not mean it isn't, and maybe the more recent ones do say that they are. I have no idea. Even so, I still think it is wrong to sell copies of an original pattern, unless it is your own.
07-31-2010, 06:33 PM
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Donna, I just went on E-bay and looked this seller up and I have a question for you. Did the pattern that you bought look like the pic that she has on her ebay site? Is the three page pattern enclosed in a piece of paper that has the purse in color on the front?
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