Fair quilt judging. No fair at all.
#72
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Perhaps it proves, that while not everyone wants to compete with their quilts
there are other things that some like to compete and win at!
#73
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I don't see it as an argument. I was hoping to have a conversation with people who have a different perspective and different values and priorities. I have never been a competitive person, and I've never entered a judged contest -- it's simply something that I don't understand. If I were arguing, I would be using a very different approach, but I don't really have any interest in arguments on the internet. I do value an exchange of different perspectives, and on some occasions I have learned from others here, as well on other sites. Apparently this is not a topic on which I will gain any insights from you all, which is too bad -- for me. Interesting that a) you talk about internet board exchanges with your husband and b) that you presented it as an argument, when it really could be read as a conversation with hopefully give and take of insights and opinions and experiences.
Peckish -- I never said that competition is evil or wrong. I simply was sharing that I lack any interest or experience in competitiveness, which is why I am curious for a better understanding of people who are. I would like to understand the thinking and mindset of a person who goes to the fair, enters their work, and is upset with getting a blue ribbon because other people also got blue ribbons.
I don't watch the Olympic games, and I've never sat through an entire football game, so I could probably ask the same questions in circles where those are enjoyed activities, but they probably wouldn't be parallel insights, given that quilting is a personal expression and skill set, as opposed to a team or nationalized viewership sport.
Scrabble has a high element of chance, so winning doesn't mean that I'm better or have a better vocabulary, it just means that in that instance I was able to assemble the letters more advantageously, and to be honest, most of the time when I play I don't even keep score -- it's just having fun with words and letters and passing time with a friend.
What was your other example? Business competition? Hmmm. Are business practices in any way relevant to a discussion about quilt judging? Not sure that I follow without added information of where you are going with that.
Cashs mom -- in my world, a happy stitchy day is a good thing. I was wishing you the best, but apparently you didn't choose to see it that way?
I'm off to sew another quilt and have myself a very happy stitchy day. Alas, still unenlightened and in the dark about competition and its whys and wherefores. . .
Peckish -- I never said that competition is evil or wrong. I simply was sharing that I lack any interest or experience in competitiveness, which is why I am curious for a better understanding of people who are. I would like to understand the thinking and mindset of a person who goes to the fair, enters their work, and is upset with getting a blue ribbon because other people also got blue ribbons.
I don't watch the Olympic games, and I've never sat through an entire football game, so I could probably ask the same questions in circles where those are enjoyed activities, but they probably wouldn't be parallel insights, given that quilting is a personal expression and skill set, as opposed to a team or nationalized viewership sport.
Scrabble has a high element of chance, so winning doesn't mean that I'm better or have a better vocabulary, it just means that in that instance I was able to assemble the letters more advantageously, and to be honest, most of the time when I play I don't even keep score -- it's just having fun with words and letters and passing time with a friend.
What was your other example? Business competition? Hmmm. Are business practices in any way relevant to a discussion about quilt judging? Not sure that I follow without added information of where you are going with that.
Cashs mom -- in my world, a happy stitchy day is a good thing. I was wishing you the best, but apparently you didn't choose to see it that way?
I'm off to sew another quilt and have myself a very happy stitchy day. Alas, still unenlightened and in the dark about competition and its whys and wherefores. . .
#76
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I was laughing as I was reading your responses and my husband asked what was so funny. I read the entire exchange verbatim out loud to him. I didn't present anything. He's the one defining it as an argument, so apparently to an uninvolved third person that's what is.
It's cute how you imply that people who like to compete are small, insecure, and unsucccessful unless someone else loses because they win, then when someone calls you out on it, you claim that's not what you said. You're twisting words to make competition a negative thing, and I am obviously not the only person who thinks this.
I would like to understand the thinking and mindset of a person who goes to the fair, enters their work, and is upset with getting a blue ribbon because other people also got blue ribbons.
What was your other example? Business competition? Hmmm. Are business practices in any way relevant to a discussion about quilt judging? Not sure that I follow without added information of where you are going with that. Alas, still unenlightened and in the dark about competition and its whys and wherefores. . .
What was your other example? Business competition? Hmmm. Are business practices in any way relevant to a discussion about quilt judging? Not sure that I follow without added information of where you are going with that. Alas, still unenlightened and in the dark about competition and its whys and wherefores. . .
I'm starting to suspect that you're just a troll. It's pretty funny, however, how this whole thread has been taking up space in your head. That's why I've been laughing, and needed to share the joke with my husband!
#77
Well RST if saying "have a happy stitchy day" was meant kindly than you should have indicated that as you wrote it because it certainly seems to be not too nice especially after the "bless your heart" phrase.
If we were to take this whole thread and let someone read it I believe most people would conclude that rather than considering other's opinions you are the one not promoting open discussion. Regardless of your opinion can you not objectively look at this and see that others are concurring that your comments have been snarky? argumentative or dismissive?
stitchy sounds snarky and if it wasn't you should apologize. instead you write "apparently you didn't choose to see it that way?" sounds argumentative to me.
And as a final note Peckish was trying to give you examples and you were dismissive. BTW Scrabble can be intensely competitive and relies a lot on vocabulary. Scrabble players that play in tournaments are ranked from beginner to expert like chess players. In the eighties one of the world champions had taken a year off his work as a psychologist to study and learn words. I can't remember his name but he was a Canadian. Here is a link to someone who just one $10,000 http://scrabbleplayers.org/w/Welcome_to_NASPAWiki
If we were to take this whole thread and let someone read it I believe most people would conclude that rather than considering other's opinions you are the one not promoting open discussion. Regardless of your opinion can you not objectively look at this and see that others are concurring that your comments have been snarky? argumentative or dismissive?
stitchy sounds snarky and if it wasn't you should apologize. instead you write "apparently you didn't choose to see it that way?" sounds argumentative to me.
And as a final note Peckish was trying to give you examples and you were dismissive. BTW Scrabble can be intensely competitive and relies a lot on vocabulary. Scrabble players that play in tournaments are ranked from beginner to expert like chess players. In the eighties one of the world champions had taken a year off his work as a psychologist to study and learn words. I can't remember his name but he was a Canadian. Here is a link to someone who just one $10,000 http://scrabbleplayers.org/w/Welcome_to_NASPAWiki
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#78
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It sounds like the fair uses the Danish judging sysytem vs the American.
In 4-H, and in many junior classes of events in state and county fairs, most judging involves the Danish system of judging. In this system, the judges do not judge one person's work by comparing it to another's. Instead, a judge determines whether the exhibitors meet or exceed standards.
The Danish system allows for multiple blue ribbons in a class or category. I would inquire as to which system your fair uses.
In 4-H, and in many junior classes of events in state and county fairs, most judging involves the Danish system of judging. In this system, the judges do not judge one person's work by comparing it to another's. Instead, a judge determines whether the exhibitors meet or exceed standards.
The Danish system allows for multiple blue ribbons in a class or category. I would inquire as to which system your fair uses.
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