Gammill Statler vs Innova AutoPilot
#11
Yes this. This is what I found. I actually ended up going for a long arm with no computerization because I did not like the feel of it, heavier.
#12
I have used both, since I rent time on long arms, and hands down, the Gammill Statler. Having said that, I only use the computerized software for edge to edge quilting. I would like to learn how to FMQ, however. I am considering purchasing a long arm after the holidays, and most likely with get the Gammill.
The thing I didn't like about the Innova is how flimsy the frame is. You cannot, whatsoever, lean on it. I also did not care for the software program.
Good luck with your decision and let us know which one you decide on.
The thing I didn't like about the Innova is how flimsy the frame is. You cannot, whatsoever, lean on it. I also did not care for the software program.
Good luck with your decision and let us know which one you decide on.
#13
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What?? No way. The Innova frame is made from Airplane grade aluminum and is rock solid! I lean on mine and use it to help heft my sorry butt off the floor when I crawl underneath to check stitches. I put a lot of stress on my frame and it is solid. It is also set up so that you can customize it. You say you rent, so this leads me to believe that your rental place may have the machine head set up on something other than an Innova frame. The frame was in my top 5 list of why I went with Innova over another brand.
#14
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wow, you all have been so helpful! i love hearing about everyones experiences and ideas. I do plan on opening a business, so i think the robotics is a must. But i also love the idea of FMQ and being able to do what i want. hmm maybe i do need to make a list of pros and cons and see if one or the other come out on top
#15
What?? No way. The Innova frame is made from Airplane grade aluminum and is rock solid! I lean on mine and use it to help heft my sorry butt off the floor when I crawl underneath to check stitches. I put a lot of stress on my frame and it is solid. It is also set up so that you can customize it. You say you rent, so this leads me to believe that your rental place may have the machine head set up on something other than an Innova frame. The frame was in my top 5 list of why I went with Innova over another brand.
#16
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Illinois
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Good luck in your decision...I made one many yrs ago....before computerized.....and still have my APQS......but, if I were to replace, I think I would go Innova....JMHO.....oh, and yes, I think I would also jump onto the computer bandwagon...for the days "I can't sew a straight line if you paid me!" As an aside.....I understand, and this maybe just urban legend, the stapler system was invented by mr statler for his wife who wanted to longarm, but because of some physical disability could not, and he was a computer person.......and the story goes.........
#17
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Carroll, Iowa
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As mentioned by others your best bet is to go to a show and try them both out unless you have access to both brands new by. I have the APQS right in my little town but went with the Innova after weighting the prices, quality, ease of movement, etc. I also went with MQR instead of Innova's AP due to the price plus I already had MQR on my 18" and could upgrade for a little more money. But trying out the machines to see what fit my way of quilting was the key. Then came to the point whether I wanted to fork out additional money for the upgraded stitch regulator LS or stick with what came with the setup. I called on some quilters in my areas to see if I could test out their system to see what worked best for me. Plus you can get some insight on the various add-ons this way as in the shows they normally have all the bells and whistles.
Plus with the Innova as mentioned you have 24/7 365 days a year with Customer Support and you only need to oil the bobbin area most times. There are numerous videos showing you how to time your machine and most everything else you might need to do. Not sure with the Gammill with how easy it is to maintain it. My fabric store nearby has the Gammill with Statler and they're very happy with it. So your best bet is to make a list of all you want on your machine, compare the 2 on quality, price, customer support and see who comes out the winner...........plus what feels good to you under your hands.
Plus with the Innova as mentioned you have 24/7 365 days a year with Customer Support and you only need to oil the bobbin area most times. There are numerous videos showing you how to time your machine and most everything else you might need to do. Not sure with the Gammill with how easy it is to maintain it. My fabric store nearby has the Gammill with Statler and they're very happy with it. So your best bet is to make a list of all you want on your machine, compare the 2 on quality, price, customer support and see who comes out the winner...........plus what feels good to you under your hands.
#19
I have an Innova and learned on a Gammill with no stitch regulator. I prefer the lower maintenance (less oiling and drips) and lightness of the Innova. I do have an 26" with the Lightening stitch (stitch regulator), but no electronics.
It depends on what you what to do with the machine. Are you quilting for yourself or others? If you prefer to do free motion, I would suggest waiting on the Auto-Pilot (it can be added later).
It depends on what you what to do with the machine. Are you quilting for yourself or others? If you prefer to do free motion, I would suggest waiting on the Auto-Pilot (it can be added later).
#20
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Join Date: Jun 2010
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I don't have Autopilot but I do have an Innova 26 machine with Lightning stitch. I love it. I did have a Gammill 26 before this one and had problems with tension all the time. I don't have that with this one and the Lightning stitch is the greatest to stop in the points or anywhere for that matter and then pick up and go on. I did take lessons on the autopilot and decided that it was not for my business as I do custom quilts most of the time. I did love what you could do with it but it was just not for me. Good luck with your decision.
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