Good Price for Grace II Frame? + other questions
#1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 101
![Default](/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I have an opportunity to purchase the Gracie Frame II for $300(she paid $700) and 2 plastic patterns for $100(paid $240)--would $400 be a decent price for a set up like this or should I expect to get a better price?
I would be using a Juki 98Q for this frame which I already have. I know some of you already have this system or have had it in the past and would be interested in hearing the pros and cons/hints of what you have learned. I have read from many of you on this board and others that it is a pain to stop and roll every 4-5 inches. So---here are some questions and thoughts that have been going through my mind.
1. I've never done machine frame quilting before and don't know if I would enjoy it. Have done some FMQ, but I am far from being an expert and don't really enjoy wrestling with the quilt but that has been on a regular DSM, not the Juki.
2.Most of the quilts would be baby to queen size(up to 82-88" wide to 104-106" long). I would be interested in exploring pantograph edge to edge quilting. Has anybody ever done pantograph overall on their DSM? I've looked at the Golden Threads video on Youtube.
3. I do not have as of yet the grace speed control or stitch regulator. Is this something that would be helpful since I would just be starting out with frame quilting?
4. The quilts I would be making would be for charity/personal use/friends family. I have no interest in quilting for others.
I've thought maybe buying it at least for the baby size/lap/twin and continue to send out the larger size quilts--that way if I decide I don't like frame quilting, I can always try and resell it. I've also thought about saving pennies instead of purchasing this frame and try and get a longer harp(16-18") machine and getting a whole new or different system(probably used).
Any thoughts from users or previous users? Do you like the frame or is there another frame you like better from Grace or another brand? Is the upgraded carriage that much better?
If money was not an issue, I would probably try for the innova or the new juki longarm, but I can't justify spending $8000 for something that I don't know whether I would enjoy plus that's alot of large quilts sent out before I would even break even. If I do find I yearn for a bigger system, I will most likely try and find something used. I have read posts about the less expensive systems--Tin Lizzie, Bailey, Homesteader, voyager, etc. But again, I don't feel that I am up to that kind of expense as of yet.
In the end, I might find that FMQ really isn't that bad, and I just need to practice more and have a little patience and give it a whirl with the juki instead of my DSM.
Thanks in advance for any hints/ideas/etc--I'm to go and look at it this week and it always takes me forever to decide on any purchase of more than a couple of hundred dollars.
I would be using a Juki 98Q for this frame which I already have. I know some of you already have this system or have had it in the past and would be interested in hearing the pros and cons/hints of what you have learned. I have read from many of you on this board and others that it is a pain to stop and roll every 4-5 inches. So---here are some questions and thoughts that have been going through my mind.
1. I've never done machine frame quilting before and don't know if I would enjoy it. Have done some FMQ, but I am far from being an expert and don't really enjoy wrestling with the quilt but that has been on a regular DSM, not the Juki.
2.Most of the quilts would be baby to queen size(up to 82-88" wide to 104-106" long). I would be interested in exploring pantograph edge to edge quilting. Has anybody ever done pantograph overall on their DSM? I've looked at the Golden Threads video on Youtube.
3. I do not have as of yet the grace speed control or stitch regulator. Is this something that would be helpful since I would just be starting out with frame quilting?
4. The quilts I would be making would be for charity/personal use/friends family. I have no interest in quilting for others.
I've thought maybe buying it at least for the baby size/lap/twin and continue to send out the larger size quilts--that way if I decide I don't like frame quilting, I can always try and resell it. I've also thought about saving pennies instead of purchasing this frame and try and get a longer harp(16-18") machine and getting a whole new or different system(probably used).
Any thoughts from users or previous users? Do you like the frame or is there another frame you like better from Grace or another brand? Is the upgraded carriage that much better?
If money was not an issue, I would probably try for the innova or the new juki longarm, but I can't justify spending $8000 for something that I don't know whether I would enjoy plus that's alot of large quilts sent out before I would even break even. If I do find I yearn for a bigger system, I will most likely try and find something used. I have read posts about the less expensive systems--Tin Lizzie, Bailey, Homesteader, voyager, etc. But again, I don't feel that I am up to that kind of expense as of yet.
In the end, I might find that FMQ really isn't that bad, and I just need to practice more and have a little patience and give it a whirl with the juki instead of my DSM.
Thanks in advance for any hints/ideas/etc--I'm to go and look at it this week and it always takes me forever to decide on any purchase of more than a couple of hundred dollars.
#3
![Default](/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I have a Bernina frame manufactured by Grace. It's metal - wish I had purchased wood - it would be lighter. I use it with a regular size machine. At first I was afraid of it but once I got it going I found I really enjoy it. My family thinks my quilting - mostly meander - is wonderful and I'm not going to tell them otherwise!!!
You can always sell your set up if you don't like it. But I think once you get it you will be addicted.
You can always sell your set up if you don't like it. But I think once you get it you will be addicted.
#4
![Default](/images/icons/icon1.gif)
No advice to offer you but maybe this will make you feel a little better! I purchased a LGII right before Christmas for the same price, $300. It looks brand new and had seen very little use because the owner got a job at her LQS and had access to their long arm. I've read about using frames and a 9 inch machine for years and like you wanted to try it. Some people say they are just too small and others do beautiful work on them. I just want to do some simple FMQ such as the Pajama Quilter and finish some quilts!
I can't afford a bigger setup and am anxious to start this new adventure. :-)
I can't afford a bigger setup and am anxious to start this new adventure. :-)
#5
Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vail, AZ
Posts: 116
![Default](/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I have a Grace wooden frame and just love it! That is excellent price. I do baby up to queen sized quilts for charity and friends and pretty much only do meandering but that works well for me. I know there are fancier systems out there but I didn't want to spend much and was sick of trying to cram rolled up fabric through small harp on my machine. It's wonderful to have quilt laid out in front of me on the frame. I know some have written on QB saying they don't like this setup but for me it's perfect. I would add that I do have stitch regulator and love it but have never used frame without it. It's like using cruise control on your car....makes the ride smoother..lol
#6
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 101
![Default](/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I will go later this week to take a look--I thought this might be a pretty good deal, but didn't know since there are newer frames on the Grace site. A couple of years ago I was contemplating a pinnacle but it never came to be.
The lady selling thought it was the original Little Gracie, but when I inquired, she found the manual and it does say Gracie II so I'm hoping it is indeed the II. There is a long and sad complicated story behind the decision to sell the frame, but let's just suffice it to say that the situation took the wind out of her sail to machine quilt again.
The lady selling thought it was the original Little Gracie, but when I inquired, she found the manual and it does say Gracie II so I'm hoping it is indeed the II. There is a long and sad complicated story behind the decision to sell the frame, but let's just suffice it to say that the situation took the wind out of her sail to machine quilt again.
#7
![Default](/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Did you get the frame? :-)
I will go later this week to take a look--I thought this might be a pretty good deal, but didn't know since there are newer frames on the Grace site. A couple of years ago I was contemplating a pinnacle but it never came to be.
The lady selling thought it was the original Little Gracie, but when I inquired, she found the manual and it does say Gracie II so I'm hoping it is indeed the II. There is a long and sad complicated story behind the decision to sell the frame, but let's just suffice it to say that the situation took the wind out of her sail to machine quilt again.
The lady selling thought it was the original Little Gracie, but when I inquired, she found the manual and it does say Gracie II so I'm hoping it is indeed the II. There is a long and sad complicated story behind the decision to sell the frame, but let's just suffice it to say that the situation took the wind out of her sail to machine quilt again.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
fabric_fancy
Links and Resources
20
09-28-2011 02:49 PM