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    Old 04-26-2011, 07:46 AM
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    Originally Posted by vivientan
    Sorry I do not have a solution for your problem. But just to add that I'm also having the same problem with my Janome 6260! Irregardless of what tension I use, the bobbin thread always shows on the top. So yes, I do suspect this is the problem with Janome machines too. The saleslady however, did mention that it's sometimes due to a faulty darning foot.

    I would like to hear too what solutions fellow forumers have on this issue.
    Thanks - I hadn't thought of the possibility of a faulty darning foot (and I really did think I'd tried everything!). I may borrow one and check that.
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    Old 04-26-2011, 07:48 AM
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    Originally Posted by carolaug
    . I just use the auto tension and keep the dogfeed up.
    Thanks Carol. I've tried the auto tension (would like to know what number that corresponds to?). Loops on the front. On my machine nothing higher than 1.5 works, and not always even at 1 or less.
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    Old 04-26-2011, 07:51 AM
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    Originally Posted by sewcrafty

    I really wish I could assist with the blue bobbin. I have a 6600 and haven't used a blue bobbin with it. I use my reg. bobbin and set my tension on 6 and have been good to go.
    I'm on the 6600 Yahoo forum because it's one machine I'm considering if I decide I have to replace the 4800. My impression is that some of these machines, like yours, are fine for FMQ with the standard bobbin, but others need the blue dot one. There isn't a universal problem with FMQ on Janome machines, but a worrying proportion of them do seem to have tension issues. The owner of my LQS went so far as to say "I don't believe it's possible to do FMQ on a Janome!" because of all the problems she'd seen in workshops.
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    Old 04-26-2011, 07:53 AM
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    Originally Posted by carolaug
    http://freemotionquilting.blogspot.c...on-filler.html - I have been following and learning from Leah Day who has a 7700 - she keeps her dog feeds up when FMQ'ing. It works...and looks great. I have made several this way.
    I love Leah's site too -so inspirational. I emailed her and she was kind enough to send me a long reply. Her advice is basically to use the same colour top and bottom and just go for it! In terms of confidence issues with FMQ I agree with her, but nevertheless, there is a problem with my machine that needs resolving, or the loops will continue.
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    Old 04-26-2011, 07:56 AM
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    Originally Posted by Just Me...
    get out the manual and make sure you have done everything on the 'list' to FMQ. I usually forget one of the steps.....
    Believe me, I've done it all! I've started with checking how I thread the machine and put the bobbin in, and gone on from there. The manual doesn't actually deal with FMQ, but I've checked all that -feed dogs, stitch length, needle etc etc from various books.
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    Originally Posted by linken
    I have had similar problems and have had conversations with Janome, via facebook. I can honestly say I am very disappointed with their customer service. To my way of thinking, if the machine is advertised to "quilt' ( mine is a Quilt/Decor) it should do just that. Having to buy the blue dot bobbin case should not have been the solution, it should have been included in the machine package. I bought it, but still have problems. I do not think it is my incompetence either, my 40 year old Brother machine does the job just fine.
    ABSOLUTELY! The 4800 is described as a "quilter's edition". As you say, it therefore shouldn't need a separate, expensive bobbin case before it will quilt. I've spoken to Janome UK by phone several times over the past 2 or 3 years: the ladies there have tried to help, but they never admitted, before the blue dot case came out, that there was an issue with the machines - it must be my incompetence or the thread I was using etc etc. It was only when I tried FMQ on 2 Berninas and a Brother that I began to believe I could do it and that it was the Janome machine that was incompetent!
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    Old 04-26-2011, 10:44 AM
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    Originally Posted by annesthreads
    Originally Posted by sewcrafty

    I really wish I could assist with the blue bobbin. I have a 6600 and haven't used a blue bobbin with it. I use my reg. bobbin and set my tension on 6 and have been good to go.
    I'm on the 6600 Yahoo forum because it's one machine I'm considering if I decide I have to replace the 4800. My impression is that some of these machines, like yours, are fine for FMQ with the standard bobbin, but others need the blue dot one. There isn't a universal problem with FMQ on Janome machines, but a worrying proportion of them do seem to have tension issues. The owner of my LQS went so far as to say "I don't believe it's possible to do FMQ on a Janome!" because of all the problems she'd seen in workshops.
    I've really not had a problem with FMQ'ing on my machine at all. Feed dogs down, tension set around 6 and speed control set to med-low. Even stitches on front and back. I'm really sorry to hear that some are having these issues. I had the option to purchase that for my machine, but decided to try without first. My understanding was that the blue bobbin was for individuals not wanting to make adjustments to their machines tension.

    In fact, I'm teaching a class and one woman had a Janome (can't remember the one) and she went right out of the starting gate beautifully. Even stitches, no eyelashes, etc. and didn't have anything other than the reg. bobbin.

    Try without the blue bobbin and see how it works. Try your tension just a little higher # than your normal setting and if you have the capability, set your speed for low-med and play with a sandwich.

    Pedal to the metal isn't for me, I need to take it at slower pace, sort of steady as you go for me. LOL


    Good Luck!
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    Originally Posted by sewcrafty
    Try without the blue bobbin and see how it works. Try your tension just a little higher # than your normal setting and if you have the capability, set your speed for low-med and play with a sandwich.

    Pedal to the metal isn't for me, I need to take it at slower pace, sort of steady as you go for me. LOL


    Good Luck!
    Done all that! With the standard bobbin case I've sat there and moved the tension half a number at a time all the way from 1-9, have tried every combination of speed and movement, have covered endless practice sandwiches. This has been going on for several years: I struggle, try new things, go back to Janome and the dealer, give up again until next time. The machine is simply not set right for FMQ: it may occasionally work with the tension very high, but not often. I think it's basically an embroidery machine that's been labelled "quilters edition" and is just not designed/set to cope with the range of threads used for quilting.
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