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I have a 26" Tin Lizzie Ansley LS and am going on 7 years with it. I use Signature and Connecting Threads Essential Pro most of the time. I've got a few spools of King Tut and have no trouble with just about any thread I've tried. I love this Lizzie, it's a real work horse, never a tension problem and it always runs smooth. Let us know what machine you have, maybe there is something machine specific we can help with.
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Hi and welcome to the board. You've gotten some good answers so far and I agree your issue is not thread. There shouldn't be any reason you can't use many different types and weights of threads on your sitdown LA. And there are many, many things that can affect your tension, from poorly wound bobbins to bobbins out of round to a thread guide needing to be tweaked a fraction of an inch rotation. While I quilt on a rack mounted LA there are some similarities to sit down but one we can eliminate from the get go is having the quilt loaded to tightly on the rack.
LA tension is much fussier than domestic and I think you need to pinpoint if your issues are on top or bottom. Can you describe what tension issues your are experiencing? For example pokies of bobbin thread color showing on top or getting eyelashes on the bottom. Are the issues intermittant? Do you get good tension when you first start then suddenly it goes wonky on you?
I agree a Towa is a good investment for many but even though I have one, I rarely pull mine out. Have you viewed Jamie Wallen's you tube about bobbin tension on a LA? This is a good place to start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1mRhcquZTM
Tweaking tension is something you have to do much more on a LA than a DSM. I check my tension with every bobbin change and periodically mid bobbin, you never know when you get a blob of lint stuck in the tension spring so when using cotton thread or I have a flannel backing (both make a lot of lint), I check frequently. This is one reason I don't use cotton very much for quilting. I prefer to stick with polys that don't make any lint. Please don't be frustrated, it takes some time to get used to the extra bit of futzing about with tension on a LA but once you get it, it will become 2nd nature to you and you will get into a routine. Also don't limit yourself on threads. There are so many wonderful and pretty threads on the market and they should sew fine in your machine, through trial and error you will discover ones that you won't like for whatever reason but don't stick with just one brand/type of thread as different styles of quilting dictate different types of thread. You say you do a lot of applique and I will often use invisifil 100 wt polyester or monofilament thread to ditch applique, then a different thread to do background quilting.
LA tension is much fussier than domestic and I think you need to pinpoint if your issues are on top or bottom. Can you describe what tension issues your are experiencing? For example pokies of bobbin thread color showing on top or getting eyelashes on the bottom. Are the issues intermittant? Do you get good tension when you first start then suddenly it goes wonky on you?
I agree a Towa is a good investment for many but even though I have one, I rarely pull mine out. Have you viewed Jamie Wallen's you tube about bobbin tension on a LA? This is a good place to start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1mRhcquZTM
Tweaking tension is something you have to do much more on a LA than a DSM. I check my tension with every bobbin change and periodically mid bobbin, you never know when you get a blob of lint stuck in the tension spring so when using cotton thread or I have a flannel backing (both make a lot of lint), I check frequently. This is one reason I don't use cotton very much for quilting. I prefer to stick with polys that don't make any lint. Please don't be frustrated, it takes some time to get used to the extra bit of futzing about with tension on a LA but once you get it, it will become 2nd nature to you and you will get into a routine. Also don't limit yourself on threads. There are so many wonderful and pretty threads on the market and they should sew fine in your machine, through trial and error you will discover ones that you won't like for whatever reason but don't stick with just one brand/type of thread as different styles of quilting dictate different types of thread. You say you do a lot of applique and I will often use invisifil 100 wt polyester or monofilament thread to ditch applique, then a different thread to do background quilting.
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What others have posted reminds me of another problem I had - I was winding my bobbins way to tight. The bailey was a class 15 machine so I used my old Singer 15 to wind bobbins, and would hold the thread between two fingers to help guide to so I a had a nice evenly wound bobbin.
The fusion came with a winder, and I cranked the tension a bit and with also using cotton thread, I was actually stretching the thread on the bobbin - it caused me to have very inconsistant tension.
I am also very diligent on cleaning lint out of the bobbin shuttle area and the bobbin case, including under the tension spring. I've had lint build up behind the bobbin race (where you couldn't see it) and it started forcing the bobbin case a bit forward and that started causing top tension issues as the thread was getting hung up a bit as it slid over the bobbin case. I have a small vacuum cleaner with a narrow hose end to suck lint out of the machine. I was told not to use compressed air as too often it can blow stuff further in - but that is for my specific machine, HQ recommends using it on the Infinity.
The fusion came with a winder, and I cranked the tension a bit and with also using cotton thread, I was actually stretching the thread on the bobbin - it caused me to have very inconsistant tension.
I am also very diligent on cleaning lint out of the bobbin shuttle area and the bobbin case, including under the tension spring. I've had lint build up behind the bobbin race (where you couldn't see it) and it started forcing the bobbin case a bit forward and that started causing top tension issues as the thread was getting hung up a bit as it slid over the bobbin case. I have a small vacuum cleaner with a narrow hose end to suck lint out of the machine. I was told not to use compressed air as too often it can blow stuff further in - but that is for my specific machine, HQ recommends using it on the Infinity.
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Location: Michigan
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I just went to my LA Club class today and tension is always a topic. The leader told us today you should always check the bobbin tension when you change a bobbin and adjust the top to fit the bobbin if necessary. I try to have a scrap sandwich along the side of my quilt to check my tension when I change a bobbin or see a problem.
I use magna glide prewound bobbins because I didn't get a bobbin winder when I bought my used HQ Sixteen. I use Superior threads but am going to start trying some new threads like metallic, etc. for some quilts.
Having a LA Club only a half hour from me is wonderful Those ladies solve so many problems for me. You should call HQ and ask it there is anyone in your area.
I use magna glide prewound bobbins because I didn't get a bobbin winder when I bought my used HQ Sixteen. I use Superior threads but am going to start trying some new threads like metallic, etc. for some quilts.
Having a LA Club only a half hour from me is wonderful Those ladies solve so many problems for me. You should call HQ and ask it there is anyone in your area.
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Northwestern Wisconsin
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Would like to thank everyone for their help and support. I had purchased the Janome Artistic SD16 brand new. Included was the bobbin winder with two per-wound bobbins, Tru Stitch Regulator, bag of sample thread from Superior Threads and accessories container. To start my husband and I out, we had picked up the machine & table from the dealer about 60 miles from us. To find out as we unloaded the machine, here it was packed upside down from the factory, with no damage and contacted the dealer. Start out with Aurifil 50/2 and assuming the per-wound bobbin was Bottom line.
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Would like to thank everyone for their help and support. I had purchased the Janome Artistic SD16 brand new. Included was the bobbin winder with two per-wound bobbins, Tru Stitch Regulator, bag of sample thread from Superior Threads and accessories container. To start my husband and I out, we had picked up the machine & table from the dealer about 60 miles from us. To find out as we unloaded the machine, here it was packed upside down from the factory, with no damage and contacted the dealer. Start out with Aurifil 50/2 and assuming the per-wound bobbin was Bottom line.
Aurifil 50/2 is a great thread and you can use it to LA but I would recommend using something just a bit heavier to start out until you are used to tweaking your machine. Because it is a 2 ply it breaks more readily than something like a 3 ply 40 wt or 3 ply 50 wt. Once you are more familiar with your machine and the little adjustments you need to make there is no reason you can't use it, just trying to save you a bit more frustration while you are learning.
Also if your dealer offers any classes, it is well worth the 60 mile trip to take advantage of those. You may learn some little tricks to help make the whole process more enjoyable.
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One thing that really helped me about taking classes - was to really look at the thread tension on the samples the demonstrator brought with. It helped me to realize that I was being way, way to critical of what my results looked like.
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I have had my APQS longarm for over 20 years, and have had very few problems with tension. I use prewound bobbins and MaxiLock thread. I have not had problems with Superior prewound bobbins, but I tried some more expensive threads such as Superior, and my machine did not like them (thread broke many times while quilting a quilt). I never mess with my tension. I have been very happy with my machine.
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