measuring for border question
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I'm working on a top that is set on point (my first). I measured for the side borders and took the center measurement as the right size and put on the borders. There were a couple of spots where the bias edges on the setting triangles stretched a little bit. Generally speaking it went well though. Then, I measured for the other set (at the center as well) of borders and cut them. They don't fit. They are about an inch too long. I double checked the measurements and they are correct.
Since I had a little trouble with the triangles stretching, I stay stitched the remaining edges about 1/8" from the edge. I don't think it will stretch to fit he binding now that I've done that. (I did the stay stitching before I started to pin on the border and discovered the problem.) I'm not sure if I should try to fit the border to the top or the top to the border.
Suggestions?
bkay
Since I had a little trouble with the triangles stretching, I stay stitched the remaining edges about 1/8" from the edge. I don't think it will stretch to fit he binding now that I've done that. (I did the stay stitching before I started to pin on the border and discovered the problem.) I'm not sure if I should try to fit the border to the top or the top to the border.
Suggestions?
bkay
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Maybe take two or three - or four - measurements of the width ; take an average of those numbers - and use that number as the target length for the borders.
however, if one of those numbers is drastically differentt from the others - try to figure out why before proceeding.
however, if one of those numbers is drastically differentt from the others - try to figure out why before proceeding.
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I guess I'm in the minority that I don't measure my sides to get my borders, I go with "as-built" conditions. Up to that point every subunit of each block has been trimmed to size and should be consistent other than a thread width here or there. My width is determined and then like most everything I do, I put the borders on large and trim down. I pin the heck out of things, and I use my ironing board to keep everything smooth while I'm pinning.
Unless it is for show, it really doesn't matter to me most of the time if one side is an inch or so different, the only time I notice it is when I am piecing (ok and when I'm folding) and I need to make the units come out correctly. But for a plain fabric border? The tape measurement is not my friend.
Unless it is for show, it really doesn't matter to me most of the time if one side is an inch or so different, the only time I notice it is when I am piecing (ok and when I'm folding) and I need to make the units come out correctly. But for a plain fabric border? The tape measurement is not my friend.
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If I am making quilt that is not for show I lay down the pieces I need that are bias cuts and measure as I go. I always figure at least 15" extra after I have laid all the pieces along side of the quilt. Also on a quilt on point stay stitching is very important. I is great to see that you have done this at least on some point. Bias stretching is always a problem when making a quilt on point.
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This question pops up from time to time and it always baffles me as to what the problem is.
Is everyone trying to cut the borders to the exact length before attaching to top. Why? To save yardage?
Some suggest taking several measurements across the quilt and averaging this for length of border- then easing either the top or border fabric to fit. What? Is this an attempt at "squaring up?" Or some other reason? Way too many steps and measurements where things could go bad.
Besides being the desired width, the border fabric only has to be one thing- long enough to fit. I only measure the top along the edge the border will attach to, and cut my border piece a couple inches longer. After it's sewn on opposing sides, trim to fit to the raw edge. If you've sewn on the long sides first you can now measure across the ends and cut your border long, and trim to width. The border pieces were cut to width, but after that I never pull out a tape measure. I take the border piece lay it on the top to see if it's long enough. If so, attach it and trim to fit. If not, lengthen the border piece. Works every time.
Am I missing something by not following convention?
Is everyone trying to cut the borders to the exact length before attaching to top. Why? To save yardage?
Some suggest taking several measurements across the quilt and averaging this for length of border- then easing either the top or border fabric to fit. What? Is this an attempt at "squaring up?" Or some other reason? Way too many steps and measurements where things could go bad.
Besides being the desired width, the border fabric only has to be one thing- long enough to fit. I only measure the top along the edge the border will attach to, and cut my border piece a couple inches longer. After it's sewn on opposing sides, trim to fit to the raw edge. If you've sewn on the long sides first you can now measure across the ends and cut your border long, and trim to width. The border pieces were cut to width, but after that I never pull out a tape measure. I take the border piece lay it on the top to see if it's long enough. If so, attach it and trim to fit. If not, lengthen the border piece. Works every time.
Am I missing something by not following convention?
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This question pops up from time to time and it always baffles me as to what the problem is.
Is everyone trying to cut the borders to the exact length before attaching to top. Why? To save yardage? Way too many steps and measurements where things could go bad.
Am I missing something by not following convention?
Is everyone trying to cut the borders to the exact length before attaching to top. Why? To save yardage? Way too many steps and measurements where things could go bad.
Am I missing something by not following convention?
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This question pops up from time to time and it always baffles me as to what the problem is.
Is everyone trying to cut the borders to the exact length before attaching to top. Why? To save yardage?
Some suggest taking several measurements across the quilt and averaging this for length of border- then easing either the top or border fabric to fit. What? Is this an attempt at "squaring up?" Or some other reason? Way too many steps and measurements where things could go bad.
Besides being the desired width, the border fabric only has to be one thing- long enough to fit. I only measure the top along the edge the border will attach to, and cut my border piece a couple inches longer. After it's sewn on opposing sides, trim to fit to the raw edge. If you've sewn on the long sides first you can now measure across the ends and cut your border long, and trim to width. The border pieces were cut to width, but after that I never pull out a tape measure. I take the border piece lay it on the top to see if it's long enough. If so, attach it and trim to fit. If not, lengthen the border piece. Works every time.
Am I missing something by not following convention?
Is everyone trying to cut the borders to the exact length before attaching to top. Why? To save yardage?
Some suggest taking several measurements across the quilt and averaging this for length of border- then easing either the top or border fabric to fit. What? Is this an attempt at "squaring up?" Or some other reason? Way too many steps and measurements where things could go bad.
Besides being the desired width, the border fabric only has to be one thing- long enough to fit. I only measure the top along the edge the border will attach to, and cut my border piece a couple inches longer. After it's sewn on opposing sides, trim to fit to the raw edge. If you've sewn on the long sides first you can now measure across the ends and cut your border long, and trim to width. The border pieces were cut to width, but after that I never pull out a tape measure. I take the border piece lay it on the top to see if it's long enough. If so, attach it and trim to fit. If not, lengthen the border piece. Works every time.
Am I missing something by not following convention?
I learned this from a pattern I had when I did my first quilt top(I still have it and have not finished it yet) and have always used this method without a problem.
As is often said, "do what works for you".
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Since I had a little trouble with the triangles stretching, I stay stitched the remaining edges about 1/8" from the edge. I don't think it will stretch to fit he binding now that I've done that. (I did the stay stitching before I started to pin on the border and discovered the problem.) I'm not sure if I should try to fit the border to the top or the top to the border.
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bkay
Since I had a little trouble with the triangles stretching, I stay stitched the remaining edges about 1/8" from the edge. I don't think it will stretch to fit he binding now that I've done that. (I did the stay stitching before I started to pin on the border and discovered the problem.) I'm not sure if I should try to fit the border to the top or the top to the border.
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bkay