I have always threaded with the foot up.
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Yes you must thread the machinde with the pressure foot up but you can lower it when it comes to threading the needle.
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Have been threading Berninas for 15 yrs so had to think about how I do it. I thread the machine itself with presser foot up, then put presser foot down to thread needle only. No problems.
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Every machine since the beginning has to have the presser foot up when threading. Stop and think about it. When the foot is down the discs are tight together for tension. The thread can't get in between them. Raise the foot and they open and the thread goes in between. Then when you lower the foot to sew you have tension on the thread and all is happy. This is every machine out there.
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Originally Posted by feline fanatic
When threading the machine I always have my pressure foot up for the exact reason Ghost Rider explained. However, when threading my needle I have done it with pressure foot down but only dropping the pressure foot after I have taken enough slack in my thread that I may need. I never pull my thread through the machine when the tension disks are engaged (ie when pressure foot is down). I always raise it before pulling any thread. So much so that it is engrained habit now.
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Originally Posted by kathy
I can see that if you thread any machine with the foot down the thread may not go into the tension discs correctly, but I sure can't figure it causing any OTHER problems, very strange if it's true.
But :-( making the timing off because you don't raise the pressure foot when threading... that does seem strange!!! |
Originally Posted by ghostrider
When the foot is down, the tension discs are engaged and you are putting undue stress on the thread and the discs when you pull it to thread the needle. This is true for any sewing machine. I think your repair guy's explanation is right on and you should listen to him. I never thread machines with the foot down...it's like pushing a car with the brakes on. :D
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If you thread with the foot down, the tension disc is closed and the threads can't get between them, and there won't be any tension on the thread, causing a mess when you start to sew. When the presser foot is up, the thread GOES between the discs and when the foot is lowered, the correct tension is put on the thread to form a correct stitch. This goes for ANY machine - not just a Bernina.
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Huh! Maybe that's why I've been having problems with my Bernina. I bought a gently used 440EE Aurora right after Christmas. Most of the time, the tension is fine, but not always. That may be when I threading it with the foot down. I'll give it a try.....
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Foot down, no problems.
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Originally Posted by blisterful
(I posted a few weeks before when I was having trouble with timing going out 3 times in three weeks). I am still having the same issues with this machine. Yesterday, authorized Bernina repairman said the reason my Bernina is going out of time is because I have been threading machine with the pressure foot down. I find it hard to believe his statement. If this were true, our owner's manuals would have a great big warning statement telling us our machine may need servicing if we thread needle with pressure foot up. Bernina owners, please let me know if you have ever threaded your machine with the pressure foot down and what you think of his explanation.
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I have never heard of having the presser foot up while threading a bernina. I have the Bernina 730..and when I thread it and the presser foot is up..the screen flashes a message to put the foot down.
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Originally Posted by Janetlmt
I have never heard of having the presser foot up while threading a bernina. I have the Bernina 730..and when I thread it and the presser foot is up..the screen flashes a message to put the foot down.
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Originally Posted by blisterful
(I posted a few weeks before when I was having trouble with timing going out 3 times in three weeks). I am still having the same issues with this machine. Yesterday, authorized Bernina repairman said the reason my Bernina is going out of time is because I have been threading machine with the pressure foot down. I find it hard to believe his statement. If this were true, our owner's manuals would have a great big warning statement telling us our machine may need servicing if we thread needle with pressure foot up. Bernina owners, please let me know if you have ever threaded your machine with the pressure foot down and what you think of his explanation.
Being told that I am actually damaging the mechanisms in the sewing machine (or loosening screws internally) by having the pressure foot down while threading is hogwash. I'm not talking about loose threads or skipped stitches. I talking about my needle breaking because it is hitting metal inside the machine.(and this happens after using it for a couple of hrs. after servicing..3+ times in 3 weeks). I have called other dealers since this posting who confirm there is a problem with my machine not a pressure foot up/down threading issue. They didn't know where the problem was without seeing the machine, but to fix the timing over and over again isn't the answer. Thank you for supporting "common sense". |
Originally Posted by ghostrider
When the foot is down, the tension discs are engaged and you are putting undue stress on the thread and the discs when you pull it to thread the needle. This is true for any sewing machine. I think your repair guy's explanation is right on and you should listen to him. I never thread machines with the foot down...it's like pushing a car with the brakes on. :D
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Originally Posted by ghostrider
When the foot is down, the tension discs are engaged and you are putting undue stress on the thread and the discs when you pull it to thread the needle. This is true for any sewing machine. I think your repair guy's explanation is right on and you should listen to him. I never thread machines with the foot down...it's like pushing a car with the brakes on. :D
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I inherited a Bernina and it is only 7 yrs old. I couldn't use it so I took it to a Bernina shop to have it checked out, 3 months ago! I call once a week and one of the ladies who answers the phone can be very rude. I am trying to be patient. I was told it would take less than 5 days. then got a call that one board was on back order, then I called and was told yes it works but the light won't go on, did it when you had it, well how would I know, it didn't work. So I called a week later, oh I fixed it, I had inadvertantly cut a wire, I said good can I come get it? No I broke a cable and it's on back order. I asked couldn't you just take one from a machine in the store and replace it when the cable comes in. She said yes. I called 2 weeks later, is it ready yet? No she replaced the cable now it won't do anything so she needs to talk to the factory!!!!!
Now I asked, can I trade it in? Well no one knows because the lady that takes care of that isn't in right now! If my machine were in the store I would pick it up and take it elsewhere, but right now it isn't and I'm so bummed. I just want my maching back!!!! Sorry I just needed to vent. It's snowing again.......I could be sewing!!!! |
I have a Bernina 440QE and didn't know this! Will have to be sure I do it the right way from now on. If the teacher in the "get to know the machine class" mentioned this I must have been asleep and totally missed it! Thanks for the tip.
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Originally Posted by quilterguy27
Originally Posted by ghostrider
When the foot is down, the tension discs are engaged and you are putting undue stress on the thread and the discs when you pull it to thread the needle. This is true for any sewing machine. I think your repair guy's explanation is right on and you should listen to him. I never thread machines with the foot down...it's like pushing a car with the brakes on. :D
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The dealer where I bought my Berninina told us that in class. She also told us to never pull cut thread thru the needle to discard. [ We are doing embroidary] but to cut by the spool and under the foot and pull it back.
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Originally Posted by Dianne1
The dealer where I bought my Berninina told us that in class. She also told us to never pull cut thread thru the needle to discard. [ We are doing embroidary] but to cut by the spool and under the foot and pull it back.
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Originally Posted by Janetlmt
I have never heard of having the presser foot up while threading a bernina. I have the Bernina 730..and when I thread it and the presser foot is up..the screen flashes a message to put the foot down.
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I thread with the pressure foot up. Also, when you exchange the top thread, our Bernina dealer taught us to cut it and pull it out the way it should go, rather than backward. Also, same suggestion for the bobbin thread. Cut it and then pull the tail out the way it usually runs through the bobbin. Saves the tension. I'm usually pretty lucky by followling their suggestions.
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Surprise of surprises....I bought a Singer (the one that has an extra length table for quilting) $299 on sale to keep at my daughter's home in No. Carolina. I didn't want to travel with my Bernina unnecessarily. It sews almost like the Bernina. I'm very careful though. I clean all the dust out faithfully. No one else is allowed to use it (perhaps one of her friends) without proper instruction.
I tried to finish a quilt on it, and realized I needed my Bernina to do it. Somehow the Singer wouldn't cooperate. But I have really given it a good go and am pleased. |
Originally Posted by kathy
I can see that if you thread any machine with the foot down the thread may not go into the tension discs correctly, but I sure can't figure it causing any OTHER problems, very strange if it's true.
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I don't know about Bernina, but I don't how you would get it properly threaded through the tension discs with the pressure foot down, unless you put it down AFTER you put the thread through the tension discs. Although I don't understand how threading it that way would screw up the timing.
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Originally Posted by SewExtreme
Originally Posted by Dianne1
The dealer where I bought my Berninina told us that in class. She also told us to never pull cut thread thru the needle to discard. [ We are doing embroidary] but to cut by the spool and under the foot and pull it back.
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My Bernina is older and I always thread needle with foot down. I would have hard time seeing the opening otherwise. It doen't have a lot of fancy stitches more basic don't know if that makes a difference
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Originally Posted by bbeyes
My Bernina is older and I always thread needle with foot down. I would have hard time seeing the opening otherwise. It doen't have a lot of fancy stitches more basic don't know if that makes a difference
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I have a BabyLock Surger and it did come with a warning to never tread with the pressure foot down. I have been looking at buying a Bernina 830 I have an Artista 200 and a 1080s right now. They also warned me about the pressure foot when I demoed the machine and also that you can never pull the thread out backward it will break the sensor. You have to cut it at the thread and pull it through with the pressure foot up. I have realized that these new machines do so much more but they have a lot more to go wrong with them. I still am planning to purchase a 830 in the next six months I have been saving all my pennies.
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I turned mine off
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Thanks for the question Blisterful....I have learned something new. I always threaded my machine with the pressure foot up, but I never knew that there was a preferred way to do it. Thanks ladies for the info?
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Yes, I was talking about the needle, but I don't put the foot down until after I thread the machine I guess I forgot to mention that.
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Originally Posted by Nana2Sew
I was taught to thread any sewing machine with the presser foot up. You can lower the foot to thread the needle.
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I have a HusqueVarna, a Singer, a Brother, and a Juki. All the manuals say to thread the machine with the pressure foot UP to eliminate pressure on the tension discs. I was taught in Home Economics 55 years ago to thread this way, also.
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Originally Posted by ghostrider
When the foot is down, the tension discs are engaged and you are putting undue stress on the thread and the discs when you pull it to thread the needle. This is true for any sewing machine. I think your repair guy's explanation is right on and you should listen to him. I never thread machines with the foot down...it's like pushing a car with the brakes on. :D
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My viking is the same way...If you don't thread with foot up it can really throw it out of wack...especially the tension...
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I have threaded with the foot down, but I always have quite a bit of thread length pulled out before I even think of threading. Will have to pay more attention to this though and see if it makes a difference. thanks for the hint.
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Originally Posted by blisterful
(I posted a few weeks before when I was having trouble with timing going out 3 times in three weeks). I am still having the same issues with this machine. Yesterday, authorized Bernina repairman said the reason my Bernina is going out of time is because I have been threading machine with the pressure foot down. I find it hard to believe his statement. If this were true, our owner's manuals would have a great big warning statement telling us our machine may need servicing if we thread needle with pressure foot up. Bernina owners, please let me know if you have ever threaded your machine with the pressure foot down and what you think of his explanation.
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It seems we are talking about different things as far as foot up and down. Threading as far as going FROM THE SPOOL and through the tension discs, foot up. Thread THROUGH THE NEEDLE'S EYE - once you have it that far, then you CAN put the foot down. I agree it's easier to see and keeps some tension on the thread so the needle threader works better.
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