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I see nothing wrong! It's perfect as is....and the love is too obvious!
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It is nice I do understand why you would not wont to give that to your mom that way. But one person said it go but some thing in the middle it would still look good. love to see what you end up doing with it.
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MOTHER WILL NOTICE ! And she did. My husband's family plays a lot of Mah Jongg. Once, when we were finished playing for the day, I pushed all the tiles to the center of the table and put the tile racks around them. (The racks are just long sticks that hold the tiles while you play.) To push in the tiles, I placed each rack so that it stuck out on the end, making a square in the middle. John's 12 year old Jewish grandson saw that and had a fit. He was just shaking as he changed it.
Don't tell me that the word "gay" will ever go back to being a "nice" word. When I was little, we were all happy and gay. You can't say that anymore. No matter who you are! You will be so much happier after you change it. My thought would be to applique a square of a very light color in the center of each block, the same color for all, to hold everything together, but put the square on the bias. That would add interest. |
I feel the same about the blocks.
I guess if it were me I would take it apart and make a rail fence out of it. Big job. |
I am sitting here looking at the blocks and you know what, it looks like it is a positive and negative type of quilt, I actually kind of like it myself, but sit and look at it on the computer and think about it for a minute before you take the blocks out, it is kind of cool, the white and blue centers look like it is suppose to be that way, just my opinion.
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Well I know what a swastika looks like and I do not see a problem with your quilt. But, if you do, there you probably will not be happy until you fix it. Don't think you Mother would notice unless you pointed it out, just like the majority of the comments said 'did not see a problem'.
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Originally Posted by ArtsyOne
(Post 5684900)
I'm German, like your Mom. If it really bothers you (it doesn't bother me) how about appliqueing something into the center of each of the offending designs? Maybe a star or a heart or just a simple square in another color.
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I don't see the design anywhere except in the third block on the top row and the last block in the bottom row.. I think it's because the colors emphasize it. Because of their location, I don't think it will be much of a trick to take those blocks out and rearrange the colors. I didn't grow up in Germany, but was a little girl in the US during WWII and the design leaped out at me. I think you would have to stretch to see it anywhere else. The colors are lovely and the borders are wonderful. But I don't imagine that you will be happy with until you "fix" those two blocks. Please post a picture showing what you decided. And thanks for being sensitive enough to see the design and know it might have a negative effect on your mom. froggyintexas
Originally Posted by SonjaG
(Post 5684864)
This is only my third project...why I decided I could conquer a queen sized quilt without any problems is beyond me. Anyway, I pieced the quilt together and after having it on the floor for a few days, finally saw a big problem. I laid everything out before putting it together, how did I not see it then? There appears to be an "unfortunate" pattern in some of the blocks. Seeing how my Mom was born and raised in Germany during the War, I just cannot leave those blocks as is. How do I fix just three or four of the blocks without taking the entire quilt apart?
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Haven't read all posts but my cousin made my mom the exact same pattern in a lap quilt. I have it on the wall now and there are a few blocks that show up the same way. They are all alike but it's just the darker color makes it more noticeable. I wouldn't change it.
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Originally Posted by ArtsyOne
(Post 5684900)
I'm German, like your Mom. If it really bothers you (it doesn't bother me) how about appliqueing something into the center of each of the offending designs? Maybe a star or a heart or just a simple square in another color.
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I only saw one offensive block that really stood out, top role 3rd one reading from the left (2nd one reading from the right), the rest do not really pop out, this is from looking at picture posted.
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I feel I must clear up the misunderstanding all of us came to regarding this quilt. It is not for her mother but her husband in his tv room. He liked the quilt as is and said not to change it. The mother did not feel the same way about it and can see what the rest of us can't so the quilt is being fixed so she is comfortable with it.
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I may be a dunce, but I can't see the mistake you're talking about. That said, I would carefully "unsew" one block at a time, make the correction and then sew it back into the quilt. I have done this before and I would "unsew" about an inch beyond each corner to make it easier to re - piece the corrected block. It's a beautiful quilt.
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fix a quilt top
I had this problem on a flip flop quilt I made my granddaughter-it was in the sashing. So, I decided that would be my signature. I would always have some small error in my quilts, to be remembered by.
No one is perfect and as long as the quilt looks pretty, that is really all that matters. ipdz2712 |
Originally Posted by eyes
(Post 5687884)
I feel I must clear up the misunderstanding all of us came to regarding this quilt.
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I am like justflyingin. If you study each block you can see the sign. If you are unhappy and afraid it will offend someone, you need to take it apart and rearrange each block to your liking. I also think you might try laying a star in the middle of each block to see if that will break up the sign enough that you could live with it.
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I would take it apart gently and fix the blocks. It is lovely.
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Originally Posted by MTS
(Post 5688054)
I had no such misunderstanding.
I was being nice about it. Sorry I said anything. |
Originally Posted by MTS
(Post 5684911)
Well, I'm not German, I can certainly see the problem, and it would bother me, so I can totally see why you want to fix it.
Sandyms uses the same method I do. I call it "targeted specialized surgery." Just some random notes from my experience in this field ;-) You want to gently open the seams around the blocks, extending it an inch or two on all sides. This will allow the block to gently fall out without any pulling, and still leave you some room to maneuver the new or redone block back into the same space. Because those sashings are pretty thin width-wise, and solids sometimes tend to fray more than prints (in my experience), I would probably do one block at a time. That way you keep the quilt top relatively intact and stable while removing and inserting. Just keep track of where you are on the back and front - I've accidentally opened the wrong seam. Nothing to do but laugh and sew it back up again. Try to allocate the couple of hours it will be take all at one time. I've found it's much easier doing it in one sitting then walking away and coming back, and having to figure out where you where (which, btw, led to opening the wrong &#@&& seam!!). Work slow and methodically, and you'll find it's really not a difficult process at all. Good luck!! |
I've done this before myself...found a problem only after getting the whole thing sewn together, and taking a picture. I figured though that I'd already spent so much time on it, I would take it apart and fix it, or it would always bother me. I don't think that the sign is very apparent. But if it bugs you, you should fix it. As others have suggested, I just picked out the bad block, fixed it and sewed it back in. Mine was small so I did it by hand.
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My grandparents and great grandparents were German. When I look at your beautiful quilt, what comes to mind is your intention. You did not intend to offend or hurt anyone, you followed a pattern to make a gift for someone. That is beautiful. Your intentions were good and pure. You made a lovely gift. I think your mother might understand this.
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Originally Posted by SonjaG
(Post 5684864)
This is only my third project...why I decided I could conquer a queen sized quilt without any problems is beyond me. Anyway, I pieced the quilt together and after having it on the floor for a few days, finally saw a big problem. I laid everything out before putting it together, how did I not see it then? There appears to be an "unfortunate" pattern in some of the blocks. Seeing how my Mom was born and raised in Germany during the War, I just cannot leave those blocks as is. How do I fix just three or four of the blocks without taking the entire quilt apart?
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I did the same thing with the first split rail I did. You are right, it needs to be fixed because you will notice it like a neon sign. You've been given good info on how to do that. Good catch.
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Most of replies are over the symbol but I see that 4 are turned in a different direction. Top left and bottom first 3 are turned with the rails running different than the others.
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I think I would take the offending blocks out one at a time. Just open up all four sides and change the way you need to. An easy way to take out a seam with out distorting it is to use a seam ripper or a very pointed pair of small scissors. and cut about every 4 or 5 stitches. Then flip the seam to the other side and pull up the thread. The whole seam will come loose very easily.
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The first thing I saw was a saint bridget quilt I think its a beautiful quilt! I always hate to see a pretty quilt ripped into
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I finally saw it - my daughter and I were looking together and when she held the computer further away from me I could finally see it.
And ... "Barbb - The fact that others did not see the swastika indicates they are not sensitive to the feelings and experiences of people who lived through some pretty gruesome times." I really feel this statement was a little harsh - it breaks my heart thinking that these crimes were committed against other human beings - I would never intentionally make a quilt with this symbol in it, but sometimes when following a pattern things like this turn up - Good luck fixing the quilt, I would feel the same way and feel either the need to fix it or cut it up and make something different from the squares. If they were cut on the diagonal or like an 'x', you might be able to reassemble and get a totally different pattern. |
Originally Posted by w7sue
(Post 5688919)
And ... "Barbb - The fact that others did not see the swastika indicates they are not sensitive to the feelings and experiences of people who lived through some pretty gruesome times." I really feel this statement was a little harsh
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i would pick them out and fix them. I don't think you will ever be happy with it if you don't. I will be a lot of extra work but in the end you will be happier with it. There are a couple of quilts in my cabinet that have never been finished because of the same kind of issues. Every year I think that I will either fix them or finish them the way they are and donate them to the homeless shelter. They won't care if it doesn't meet my standards they will just be happy to have a warm quilt. Hugs to you and I know you will make the right decision. The applique over them is a great idea. Good luck and let us know what you decide.
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I had the quilt up on my computer last night and called my husband to look at it. He saw the problem IMMEDIATELY. I didn't say anything about it, just asked him to look at this quilt. Even though that symbol has been around for thousands of years, now it has a different meaning.
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I would take out the two bottom row middle blocks and trade them with the right sided corner blocks. then the four corners would be the same and all the others would be the same. Saves you from making new blocks or totally tearing the blocks apart for reinsertion. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Peckish
(Post 5685543)
First, I don't think the blocks resemble swastikas. They're missing that outer leg on all four sides. To me, it just looks like some kind of spinning block.
Second, it's too bad that anytime one looks at such a symbol, all we see is the negative connotation of Hitler. Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck. I hope your mom likes it as is. As others have stated, I'm not sure how you could change it without completely remaking the entire quilt. |
Since you said you haven't done a lot of quilts -- find help fixing it. It could get frustrating and the help of an experienced quilter will keep you sane. My local quilt shop offers private "lessons." I have a quilt that I would have thrown out the window by now without the pro help.
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I would never have noticed the swastikas if you had not pointed them out. It sounds as though your mother hasn't either. Keep calm and carry on. This is a very pretty quilt.
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The quilt is for her husband??? What a way to fish for compliments. Never thought of that. lol
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Originally Posted by mannem
(Post 5690025)
The quilt is for her husband??? What a way to fish for compliments. Never thought of that. lol
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I have tried to fix quilts and have ended up with a mess. I would totally take it apart or try to applique something in the center. That should break up the offensive areas and would save a ton of work.
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For the life if me, I don't understand the fuss. The intended recipient likes the nice quilt, the 'unintentional' pattern might suggests a plus sign, but not a completed swastika sign. Give it a rest. For your next quilt, I suggest using a pattern other than rail fence. That should alleviate any further imagined trouble in your family. Geez.... As far as the 'warm welcome': all the other comments were surely positive. You need a reality check. It was not that you asked for help. I totally understand that, but to make a mountain out of a mole hill???
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Originally Posted by mannem
(Post 5691638)
For the life if me, I don't understand the fuss. The intended recipient likes the nice quilt, the 'unintentional' pattern might suggests a plus sign, but not a completed swastika sign. Give it a rest. For your next quilt, I suggest using a pattern other than rail fence. That should alleviate any further imagined trouble in your family. Geez.... As far as the 'warm welcome': all the other comments were surely positive. You need a reality check. It was not that you asked for help. I totally understand that, but to make a mountain out of a mole hill???
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Oh my, I don't think they look like "that symbol" at all. I wouldn't have ever noticed had you not pointed it out - actually for your third quilt I think it's GREAT!!! :)
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