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2manyhobbies 11-20-2011 04:25 PM

I sure did see it, and panicked, as I was making aprons for a 4H fundraiser. I called the company who manufacture
the fabric and asked for permission to use it. As it was a fundraiser, they had no problem
with my using it. It just
seems sad,though, that one can get sued for 'improper' fabric usage. I agree with all of the
posters. It's about greed, and Disney is among the worst. Do they really think we're going to make millions using their fabric? I wish!

Taino Jan 11-20-2011 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Camping Angel (Post 4702337)
IMHO commercial does not mean buying a few yards of fabric, making a few quilts and selling them. Commercial items would be made in bulk and sold in large numbers. But I think I would be a little careful with licensed characters, ect.

Sorry Camping Angel, but commercial means commercial. If you sell 1 or 1 million, it is still considered a legal transaction and that means commercial. I haven't read my shelvage lately, will do that. And I will be avoiding fabric with that warning. :thumbdown:

johanka 11-20-2011 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by CoyoteQuilts (Post 4702249)
The 'big guys ie: Disney, NFL, etc' don't want you to make money off of things with their 'picture' on it that they could make themselves. You see a stuffed bear with a t-shirt with an emblem of mickey mouse on it and you think, 'oh, that's cute! I could make some just like it, but I know that with the Giants on it that would sell better.' Well, that is where you are taking away money from Disney and 'infringing' on their product. You don't even have to get the idea that way, but it is still 'infringing' on their profits..... That is why they are putting that statement on the edge of their fabric. As a person that sells items I have avoided making things with any of the 'licensed' items. I can't afford to pay for a lawyer and I have also found that most people aren't buying that type of stuff in what I sell. I do make stuff for family and friends with this type of fabric when it is a gift. BUT other than that if it has that warning on the edge I by pass it. If we don't buy it in the first place they don't get any money and may re-think their greediness and give us little guys a break :). This is just my opinion and I say it only about myself.....

I do like your thinking and I do agree with you.

Sadiemae 11-20-2011 05:01 PM

I have read countless reasons for their doing this, but I still think it comes down to greed.

JulieR 11-20-2011 05:02 PM

If one of you created and sold a quilt to someone, how pleased would you be to see it being produced by someone else who will make money from it? How would you feel if it was mass produced for a skinhead recruitment giveaway?

She who owns the copyright can control how the fabric (or pattern) is used. WE are not the "little guy" - the person whose fabric we're using against the copyright is the one getting hurt. After all, she should have the right to say NO if a group wants to use her fabric in a pornographic calendar, shouldn't she?

I don't make quilts to sell but if I did, I'd follow the rules. I'm not interested in taking food out of someone else's mouth, or in creating a precedent for someone else to be able to use the fabric for less...mainstream purposes.

JulieR 11-20-2011 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Sadiemae (Post 4703316)
I have read countless reasons for their doing this, but I still think it comes down to greed.

Yes. Greed on the parts of those who don't think they should have to follow the law.

SherryW 11-20-2011 05:05 PM

If the fabric can't be used to make whatever you want, then the designer/companies shouldn't be selling it. They need to keep it to themselves! What's the purpose of a nice design if it can't be used to make what you want? If I ever notice that stamped on fabric, I won't be buying it whether I sell the item or not.

JulieR 11-20-2011 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by SherryW (Post 4703343)
If the fabric can't be used to make whatever you want, then the designer/companies shouldn't be selling it. They need to keep it to themselves! What's the purpose of a nice design if it can't be used to make what you want? If I ever notice that stamped on fabric, I won't be buying it whether I sell the item or not.

It's meant for personal use. Like quilts you don't sell and crafts you give to your family. By all means stay away from protected use fabrics but since I only use fabric for personal projects I'll enjoy them just fine.

0tis 11-20-2011 05:14 PM

I have some fabric that has that on the selvage - its not Disney licensed or anything like that - just sort of a dark background with flowers on it. I must say that I hesitated to use it for craft sales - but after reading some of the copyright information - I wouldn't hesitate to use it now.

deemail 11-20-2011 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Taino Jan (Post 4703200)
Sorry Camping Angel, but commercial means commercial. If you sell 1 or 1 million, it is still considered a legal transaction and that means commercial. I haven't read my shelvage lately, will do that. And I will be avoiding fabric with that warning. :thumbdown:

she's right...they don't care how many you are making... and i suggest we all type a little note,

"As I discovered a limiting copyright statement in the selvedge of your fabric, I decided against using it. I purchased $_____ of another company's fabric and will use that instead. My shirts/quilts/crafts are sold on a weekly basis at craft shows and you have missed the free advertising that my purhase, and eventual sale, would have accorded your company." then we email this to the fabric companies every time they inconvenience us...

BTW....my favorite stunt of this type is when Mattel tried to copyright 'Barbie pink'.... don't know if they succeeded, i just think it's a hoot.....


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