Question about copyright
12-08-2015, 08:48 AM
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Question about copyright
A friend and I are buying a copyrighted pattern together. Is it legal to make a copy so we both have it? There are a lot of knowledgeable people on here. I don't think I've seen this topic before. Thanks for your help.
12-08-2015, 09:38 AM
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no. you definitely cannot make a copy so that both of you have one.
you must work together so you can share it.
or one of you can use it and then pass it to the other.
you only paid for one copy, so that's all you are legally entitled to.
you must work together so you can share it.
or one of you can use it and then pass it to the other.
you only paid for one copy, so that's all you are legally entitled to.
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12-09-2015, 08:23 AM
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I would say if you are working on a project together, something you are going to both take credit for, it may by-pass the copywrite. But sharing, lending or copying would be an infringement. In copywrite world "lending, "sharing" and "copying" are all interchangeable words.
If push came to shove, how will you prove that you bought it "together"? One person bought it (meaning there is one sales receipt) and the other pays her for her half. Technically, one person bought it. The buyer is "sharing", and the other is "giving her half the cost" for the ability to use the pattern, wheather working together or alone. I would think that that may be a problem.
If you are in doubt, don't share, lend, or copy. Copywrite law is such a pot of mud. I would check with the artist or the copywrite holder before even buying the pattern.
If push came to shove, how will you prove that you bought it "together"? One person bought it (meaning there is one sales receipt) and the other pays her for her half. Technically, one person bought it. The buyer is "sharing", and the other is "giving her half the cost" for the ability to use the pattern, wheather working together or alone. I would think that that may be a problem.
If you are in doubt, don't share, lend, or copy. Copywrite law is such a pot of mud. I would check with the artist or the copywrite holder before even buying the pattern.
12-09-2015, 02:18 PM
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Two people are paying for the pattern, and they share ownership. That is fine. They can hand it back and forth and take turns using it. That is allowed. One of them could gift it to the other, still fine.
It is not legal to photocopy the pattern so that each of you has a copy -- that is copyright infringement. Likewise, you can't scan it and give the other person a file containing the pattern.
Where things get harder to define in the modern world is things like -- can you be at different locations but facetime and share the information in your coversation? I'd say yes, that's ok, because it's much like a phone call. But can you face time the pattern for the other person? Not sure, on that one. On the one hand, it's pretty much the same thing as being in the same room and holding the pattern up so your friend can see it, on the other hand, you're using a facsimile of it, but on the third hand, it's temporary in that facetime session and does not exist as a separate entity.
So to answer your original question -- it's not legal to photocopy it. It is legal to share it.
It is not legal to photocopy the pattern so that each of you has a copy -- that is copyright infringement. Likewise, you can't scan it and give the other person a file containing the pattern.
Where things get harder to define in the modern world is things like -- can you be at different locations but facetime and share the information in your coversation? I'd say yes, that's ok, because it's much like a phone call. But can you face time the pattern for the other person? Not sure, on that one. On the one hand, it's pretty much the same thing as being in the same room and holding the pattern up so your friend can see it, on the other hand, you're using a facsimile of it, but on the third hand, it's temporary in that facetime session and does not exist as a separate entity.
So to answer your original question -- it's not legal to photocopy it. It is legal to share it.
12-09-2015, 10:50 PM
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Sure, you can share it.....but don't COPY it, as in photocopy or scan it (and print it).
You can use it, then hand it to her to use. There is no violation of copyright.
Think "book"....you can certainly jointly own a book.
You can use it, then hand it to her to use. There is no violation of copyright.
Think "book"....you can certainly jointly own a book.
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