question for professional longarm quilters
08-31-2008, 05:00 AM
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The woman who has quilted for me in the past has a website. I checked it out awhile ago and discovered that she has a "photo album" of quilts. She has included both a full shot and a close up of the quilting on a great many (75+) of the quilts that she has done for clients. There is no mention that these are clients quilts, let alone giving them individual credit for their work, and there was no request for permission to post the photos on her website.
I do not begrudge her wanting to market her business, however, the strong implication (as demonstrated by one of the letters in her guestbook) is that she made all these quilts. My quilts are my own, original designs. I don't use patterns, and I always give credit to the inspiration source. I have put her name on the label of every quilt she has done for me, have referred others to her for services, and have spoken highly of her on this board and others. I am seriously considering taking my business elsewhere.
Am I making way too much of this?? Is this a standard business practice? Should I just tell her how I feel, ask her to remove the photos of my quilts, and keep taking my stuff to her? I DO like her work but there are many others in this area who are just as good, if not better. Any advice would be most welcome. Thanks.
I do not begrudge her wanting to market her business, however, the strong implication (as demonstrated by one of the letters in her guestbook) is that she made all these quilts. My quilts are my own, original designs. I don't use patterns, and I always give credit to the inspiration source. I have put her name on the label of every quilt she has done for me, have referred others to her for services, and have spoken highly of her on this board and others. I am seriously considering taking my business elsewhere.
Am I making way too much of this?? Is this a standard business practice? Should I just tell her how I feel, ask her to remove the photos of my quilts, and keep taking my stuff to her? I DO like her work but there are many others in this area who are just as good, if not better. Any advice would be most welcome. Thanks.
08-31-2008, 05:04 AM
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I'm not a longarmer, but if she is IMPLYING that the quilts are HER work, then I would speak to her about it. Especially if people are signing her guestbook stating they like "her" quilts and she's not correcting them by saying they aren't hers.
Most quilt shops I have visited on and offline have had the name of the maker on the quilt and have given reference to them.
So, if you talk to her and she's not willing to do as you ask, then I wouldn't go back to her.
That's my opinion.......
Most quilt shops I have visited on and offline have had the name of the maker on the quilt and have given reference to them.
So, if you talk to her and she's not willing to do as you ask, then I wouldn't go back to her.
That's my opinion.......
08-31-2008, 06:12 AM
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Thanks, this has been eating at me more and more since I have several tops ready for quilting and will have even more ready soon.
This is what is in the guest book:
You've done some amazing work! Do you ever sell any of the quilts you make to people who are not as skilled as you are?
Jamie on April 20, 2008
Yes I do sell some of my quilts. I can make a quilt for you with a theme, colors, or style of your choice. Give me a call and we can discuss the possiblities. Thanks for your nice comments.
Tracy on April 25, 2008
This is what is in the guest book:
You've done some amazing work! Do you ever sell any of the quilts you make to people who are not as skilled as you are?
Jamie on April 20, 2008
Yes I do sell some of my quilts. I can make a quilt for you with a theme, colors, or style of your choice. Give me a call and we can discuss the possiblities. Thanks for your nice comments.
Tracy on April 25, 2008
08-31-2008, 06:32 AM
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well, I sure understand where you are coming from... which is one reason why we got the Bailey/Grace frame... (which we have NOT been able to play with because of GUSTAV... grrrrrr :twisted: )
A friend of mine has made some fantastic quilts and had then 'done' by a longarm quilter - who also does a wonderful job ....
The longarm quilter doesn't take any credit for somebody else's work but when my friend posted photos of her quilts on a photo board, a lot of people MISunderstood what she said and 'assumed' that the longarm quilter had done the WHOLE quilt - not that TWO people worked on them...
there were comments like, "oh SHE does wonderful work" etc, negating all the work that my friend had done!
I've had 3 or 4 quilts "done" and then we decided to go ahead and spend the $2500 for the 15" Bailey/frame combo...
And I've seen sites where longarm quilters show their work BUT they also say the quilt was made by so and so etc
you need to find out if you gave 'implicit' permission for her to take photos (which I really don't blame her for wanting photos of the work she did) ...
She does own the copyright to the photos she took, she does NOT own the copyright to YOUR quilt...
that's a very gray, gray area...
and boy am I glad we decided to get the Bailey!!!
which I am NOT going to "do" quilts for anybody else - I don't want the responsibility - I mean what if you totally booger up somebody's quilt that they took years to do???? :shock: :-o
I know people (one woman in particular) who would immediately say something like, "I don't like what you did - you ruined my quilt and I won't pay for the work"... and then demand compensation for the quilt/time etc AND demand the quilt.... nope, not gonna do any quilts but for myself - and then when I say "I" did it, I mean **I** did it!! :mrgreen:
(or DH as the case may be!)
A friend of mine has made some fantastic quilts and had then 'done' by a longarm quilter - who also does a wonderful job ....
The longarm quilter doesn't take any credit for somebody else's work but when my friend posted photos of her quilts on a photo board, a lot of people MISunderstood what she said and 'assumed' that the longarm quilter had done the WHOLE quilt - not that TWO people worked on them...
there were comments like, "oh SHE does wonderful work" etc, negating all the work that my friend had done!
I've had 3 or 4 quilts "done" and then we decided to go ahead and spend the $2500 for the 15" Bailey/frame combo...
And I've seen sites where longarm quilters show their work BUT they also say the quilt was made by so and so etc
you need to find out if you gave 'implicit' permission for her to take photos (which I really don't blame her for wanting photos of the work she did) ...
She does own the copyright to the photos she took, she does NOT own the copyright to YOUR quilt...
that's a very gray, gray area...
and boy am I glad we decided to get the Bailey!!!
which I am NOT going to "do" quilts for anybody else - I don't want the responsibility - I mean what if you totally booger up somebody's quilt that they took years to do???? :shock: :-o
I know people (one woman in particular) who would immediately say something like, "I don't like what you did - you ruined my quilt and I won't pay for the work"... and then demand compensation for the quilt/time etc AND demand the quilt.... nope, not gonna do any quilts but for myself - and then when I say "I" did it, I mean **I** did it!! :mrgreen:
(or DH as the case may be!)
08-31-2008, 06:38 AM
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Anyone can set up a webshots account for free.
Is it necessary to list who the quiltmaker is? Probably not although we do try to put "Customer quilts" as the heading and the month they were done. A lot of us also list the maker in the description section.
I'm sorry that this is bothering you. Talk to your longarmer and ask her to go in and list the maker of the quilts. I'm sure she won't have any problem doing that.
Why not set up your own account so that people can see the quilts you made?
Is it necessary to list who the quiltmaker is? Probably not although we do try to put "Customer quilts" as the heading and the month they were done. A lot of us also list the maker in the description section.
I'm sorry that this is bothering you. Talk to your longarmer and ask her to go in and list the maker of the quilts. I'm sure she won't have any problem doing that.
Why not set up your own account so that people can see the quilts you made?
08-31-2008, 06:46 AM
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Maybe try talking to the longarm quilter first -
It's POSSIBLE she may be ignorant/unthinking/didn't realize, etc. etc.
I would also be upset with someone apparently claiming credit for doing "everything" when that isn't the case.
Are there other sites that have captions with a "pieced/appliqued by Sew and Sew" - which I think should be listed first in the caption - that you could show her as examples?
And then strongly suggest that she should do the same thing.
It's POSSIBLE she may be ignorant/unthinking/didn't realize, etc. etc.
I would also be upset with someone apparently claiming credit for doing "everything" when that isn't the case.
Are there other sites that have captions with a "pieced/appliqued by Sew and Sew" - which I think should be listed first in the caption - that you could show her as examples?
And then strongly suggest that she should do the same thing.
08-31-2008, 06:48 AM
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Definately talk to her about your photos. I'm sure she values you as a customer and would want to hear your concerns.
As a longarmer, I always ask if it is okay to put a photo of my client's quilts on my website. The work order form they sign includes a space for them to initial with their approval. When I refer to the owners of quilts on my blog I typically include only their first name for privacy reasons. Your post, however, has given me plenty of food for thought and I thank you for posting it.
If you have found a longarmer you trust and who "clicks" with you, don't jump ship. It is so important to find a quilter you feel comfortable with. Just express yourself and I'm sure she will be happy to work this issue out with you.
As a longarmer, I always ask if it is okay to put a photo of my client's quilts on my website. The work order form they sign includes a space for them to initial with their approval. When I refer to the owners of quilts on my blog I typically include only their first name for privacy reasons. Your post, however, has given me plenty of food for thought and I thank you for posting it.
If you have found a longarmer you trust and who "clicks" with you, don't jump ship. It is so important to find a quilter you feel comfortable with. Just express yourself and I'm sure she will be happy to work this issue out with you.
08-31-2008, 07:16 AM
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I'm in the process of loading online pictures of the quilts I have quilted. Interesting thread.
I would not put the person's full name. Many don't want their name on the internet. I could probably put 'customer pieced' or use just their first name. I do quilt a lot of quilts for a quilt shop. For those, I'm going to talk to the owner. She may want to put the quilt shop name and a phone number, in the event someone wants a kit.
I also had the opportunity to quilt some tops for a quilt pattern designer. Those would not be going on at all unless I had specific permission. I didn't get to quilt those (Waaaaaa!!!) as I had broken my wrist right before. Talk about unhappy!!!!
If not for the fact that I have a business, I probably wouldn't be using my full name here. I quilt probably 10 quilts for others to every 1 of mine, and mine take the back seat more and more. I'm also willing to piece a quilt for someone, so it could be that she also wants to convey that option.
For the quilts I have posted here, I have clearly said whether I pieced them or if it was a customer quilt.
I'm glad you brought this up. I think that sometimes we assume that if people know we're longarmers, they also know that most of the tops we quilt are made by someone else.
As for your issue, I would suggest that you talk to her. You're happy with her work, and you have a relationship. It could be simply an issue of her not thinking that others might think that she did the entire quilt. We sometimes tend to live in our own little world!!! :lol:
I would not put the person's full name. Many don't want their name on the internet. I could probably put 'customer pieced' or use just their first name. I do quilt a lot of quilts for a quilt shop. For those, I'm going to talk to the owner. She may want to put the quilt shop name and a phone number, in the event someone wants a kit.
I also had the opportunity to quilt some tops for a quilt pattern designer. Those would not be going on at all unless I had specific permission. I didn't get to quilt those (Waaaaaa!!!) as I had broken my wrist right before. Talk about unhappy!!!!
If not for the fact that I have a business, I probably wouldn't be using my full name here. I quilt probably 10 quilts for others to every 1 of mine, and mine take the back seat more and more. I'm also willing to piece a quilt for someone, so it could be that she also wants to convey that option.
For the quilts I have posted here, I have clearly said whether I pieced them or if it was a customer quilt.
I'm glad you brought this up. I think that sometimes we assume that if people know we're longarmers, they also know that most of the tops we quilt are made by someone else.
As for your issue, I would suggest that you talk to her. You're happy with her work, and you have a relationship. It could be simply an issue of her not thinking that others might think that she did the entire quilt. We sometimes tend to live in our own little world!!! :lol:
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