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    Old 04-26-2018, 11:33 AM
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    Hello all!
    I'd like to try quilting with my embroidery machine. I've seen a few videos and it doesn't look too difficult once you get the details and settings sorted out, but what concerns me is that nobody shows what the back of the quilt looks like. I'd love to try some simple redwork or sashiko designs, but can anyone tell me what it will look like on the back? Also, can I use any type of batting or does it work better with pure cotton? Are there any books on the market that address this? Please, if you've done this would you chime in with your experiences? Thanks!!
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    Hi Barb,

    There are different methods for emb quilting. Do you already have designs from a vendor?

    You can make almost any emb design into a quilt. You can use any batting that you like in the quilt. If you are using embroidery designs, there is usually a placement line for the batting and back ground fabric. Then a tack down stitch is done. The design is stitched or appliques are applied depending on the details.

    When I make the blocks as mentioned above, I piece them together into the quilt top. Any batting or stabilizer is trimmed out of the seam line to avoid bulk. Then a backing fabric is cut according to size. I send my quilts out for the final finishing touches. The backs of these blocks are not pretty with bobbin thread and knots. It all hides easily in the quilting process. Some of my quilts have an added layer of batting for more definition to the emb design.

    Some emb designs include the back ground stippling in the quilt block. Do you see the background stippling in these blocks? https://www.anitagoodesignonline.com...ursery-rhymes/

    The other option is called edge to edge. I haven't done that yet so not sure of how to describe the technique.

    I hope this helps give you a few answers.
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    Yes you can. Are you considering what I consider regular embroidery designs that are done with multiple colors or the single design lines that look more like quilting Stencil designs. Many machines have the latter built in. There are also collections on a cd that can be downloaded. Some years ago at one of the quilt conventions, the single line designs were used in a class. Benartex and Bernina also had a collection of these designs. After saying all this it depends on which type you want to do. When this question is answered then I might be able to give other suggestions.
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    I do 'edge to edge' with designs by https://shop.ameliescott.com/ and I love it, but they are quite difficult with quilts larger than twin. So I have done QAYG and even do my borders and add them at the end. I very much like the way mine look, but it is just line/redwork type quilting. Amelie Scott has a video showing how to do the edge to edge stitching.
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    I have an embroidery machine and have made quilt blocks on it that I then pieced, if that is what you’re talking about. I have not used it to quilt as in free-motion quilting though I’ve looked at the Amelie Scott products for doing that. My machine has built in quilting designs, I just have no idea how to use them....yet.
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    Originally Posted by Barb2018
    Hello all!
    I'd like to try quilting with my embroidery machine. I've seen a few videos and it doesn't look too difficult once you get the details and settings sorted out, but what concerns me is that nobody shows what the back of the quilt looks like. I'd love to try some simple redwork or sashiko designs, but can anyone tell me what it will look like on the back? Also, can I use any type of batting or does it work better with pure cotton? Are there any books on the market that address this? Please, if you've done this would you chime in with your experiences? Thanks!!
    I did embroidery on a queen size Lone Star quilt after it was sandwiched. Cotton fabric, poly batting. I used quilt feathers embroidery designs. If you are doing the embroidery after it has been sandwiched....mark your design centers on your quilt before you sandwich. I found it easiest to print the designs out, pin them in place, & then mark centers with a +. Then hoop all 3 layers, no stabilizer needed. The thickness of the fabrics & batting will be enough. Thread your bobbin for regular sewing & with the same thread as the top. This will make the back of the design look almost like the top. If possible chose designs with few or no jump stitches. The downside is keeping the weight of the quilt off the embroidery arm of the machine. I used my ironing board next to my machine to support most of it. Slow your machine down, so you have better control of the quilt while the arm is moving. Use scrap fabric & batting & do a few test runs first.

    Others have posted how to do QAYG blocks or Applique'.
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    Old 04-26-2018, 10:39 PM
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    I made a weird circular centerpiece thing and quilted it on my embroidery machine. Before hitting the start button i pulled the threads up to the top so they wouldnt get tangled underneath. It turned out well except i didnt line it up perfectly and ended up messing up the binding. For the hoop i used the method of wrapping tape around the hoop and just sticking the quilt onto it instead of trying to put it in the hoop
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    Old 04-27-2018, 01:06 AM
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    the appearance of the back will depend on the embroidery you do.
    if you do the multi-colored embroidery that uses satin or other fill stitching (flowers, for example) the back will be a mess.
    if you use quilt-motif files, single-run motifs will look almost exactly as they would if you had done them FMQ or on a long-arm. the only difference is that there will be little knots where each motif finishes. (there can be more if the motif isn't completed in one full run.) if the top and/or bobbin thread(s) do not match the backing fabric the knots will be visible. you'll have to decide whether or not to trim off the little "thread flags" at each knot. i rarely do. i figure anybody who is bothered by them can spend the time it takes to hunt them down and snip them. if i do snip them myself i put a dab of fabric glue on each one and don't snip until that's dry. use a glue that won't wash out and that dries invisibly. the photo below is the back of a quilt i use on my sofa. top thread was red, bobbin white.

    if you use a double-run motif, in addition to the little knots you will most likely have pin-dots on the back. the only way i know of to prevent that is to use the same color thread in top and bobbin.

    the size quilt you should attempt will depend on your machine. theoretically i can do a king-size on mine because the hoops go up to 9-1/2" x 14" and the throat height should be enough. having just wrassled with an oversized twin, though, i think i'll divide anything larger into QAYG sections. i still need to experiment a bit more. it might be easier if i use polyester batting instead of cotton.

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    Old 04-27-2018, 03:54 AM
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    Thank you Feather3...that was what I was looking for. I have some practice sandwiches made so I guess I just need to jump in and do a few.
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    I don't FM so only use my emb machine to quilt. I've done up to Queen. I sone times do overall or just in each block. Use busy backing and won't notice any issues with knotting. Match you bobbin thread to color on back so it blends in. I buy all my designs thru emblibrary.com
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