The recent topic of do you pay over x amount has gotten me to thinking.
#61
I can completely understand how this issue has so many heated thoughts. If there is ever any special pieces of fabric that would fit into a flat rate envy....please don't hesitate to get hold of me, I would be willing to send a pkg every now and then!
I used to live in England, in Witney, Banbury, Bicester and Greenham Common! They were all for the American-leased bases there and over two different time periods. I was not into quilting when we lived there, but did sewing and I never could afford the fabric off base. I was making the clothes to make it cheaper than buying them, buting the fabric off base would have defeated the purpose.
Too all of you in England-I truly miss your country and would love to go back for a visit of about a year or so!!!
I also am willing to swap fabrics from here for crisps, chocolates and all sorts of neat things that I miss! I used to have a cross-stitch buddy that would swap me XXX mints, candies and crisps for fabrics and threads!!! My kids always had a shopping list of their favorites! Please let me know if I can be of any help.
I used to live in England, in Witney, Banbury, Bicester and Greenham Common! They were all for the American-leased bases there and over two different time periods. I was not into quilting when we lived there, but did sewing and I never could afford the fabric off base. I was making the clothes to make it cheaper than buying them, buting the fabric off base would have defeated the purpose.
Too all of you in England-I truly miss your country and would love to go back for a visit of about a year or so!!!
I also am willing to swap fabrics from here for crisps, chocolates and all sorts of neat things that I miss! I used to have a cross-stitch buddy that would swap me XXX mints, candies and crisps for fabrics and threads!!! My kids always had a shopping list of their favorites! Please let me know if I can be of any help.
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Originally Posted by quiltilicious
Originally Posted by Favorite Fabrics
Originally Posted by quiltilicious
Originally Posted by LittleMo
My LQS owner was complaining to me that her purchase price on a particular line of fabric was more than what Spotlight was charging retail for the exactly the same line. She had to place her order over 12 months ago. What the importer had left over (orders not honoured?) was offered to Spotlight at a bargain basement price. Any why not, the importer had already made his money from all the LQS's. It sure made the LQS owner look greedy, but she could not match the Spotlight price without losing money.
Someone is making alot of money, but it is not the LQS owners. By the time we buy fabric, it has been through alot of middle men each wanting to take their cut.
Someone is making alot of money, but it is not the LQS owners. By the time we buy fabric, it has been through alot of middle men each wanting to take their cut.
Your LQS will likely not have a contract with anyone, be it an importer or a manufacturer. The manufacturers probably do have contracts with mills, but I believe the way that works is that the manufacter agrees to purchase x yards at x price. So in theory there should not be any extra yardage produced. However, if the manufacturer is not able to sell all they have left, they'll clearance it.
I guess that's why I'm not wealthy, because I don't want to screw people over. :?
If the manufacturer took too long to deliver the goods, and the LQS no longer wanted it, a shop can put a "cancel if not shipped by" date on their orders.
I'm trying to imagine what happened here.
You see, if as a LQS buyer you're not "on the ball" and you don't get your order placed for a new collection, you might get shut out of the first printing. And then your fabric just doesn't come. The manufacturer may still be "collecting orders" on that particular print, and when they have taken enough orders to reach their threshold for reprinting (1000 yards? 3000 yards?) then they will place their order with the mill. But it could take many months before they accumulate enough orders to warrant a reprinting, by which time the collection is "old hat" and people are starting to lose interest... and so it comes in and quickly goes to clearance status.
There's a whole lot that goes on behind the scenes in this business!
#63
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Originally Posted by quilter on the eastern edge
With the VAT system, the price tag on the metre of fabric would be $16.95 and that is what you would pay at the register.
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Originally Posted by natalieg
I can completely understand how this issue has so many heated thoughts. If there is ever any special pieces of fabric that would fit into a flat rate envy....please don't hesitate to get hold of me, I would be willing to send a pkg every now and then!
I used to live in England, in Witney, Banbury, Bicester and Greenham Common! They were all for the American-leased bases there and over two different time periods. I was not into quilting when we lived there, but did sewing and I never could afford the fabric off base. I was making the clothes to make it cheaper than buying them, buting the fabric off base would have defeated the purpose.
Too all of you in England-I truly miss your country and would love to go back for a visit of about a year or so!!!
I also am willing to swap fabrics from here for crisps, chocolates and all sorts of neat things that I miss! I used to have a cross-stitch buddy that would swap me XXX mints, candies and crisps for fabrics and threads!!! My kids always had a shopping list of their favorites! Please let me know if I can be of any help.
I used to live in England, in Witney, Banbury, Bicester and Greenham Common! They were all for the American-leased bases there and over two different time periods. I was not into quilting when we lived there, but did sewing and I never could afford the fabric off base. I was making the clothes to make it cheaper than buying them, buting the fabric off base would have defeated the purpose.
Too all of you in England-I truly miss your country and would love to go back for a visit of about a year or so!!!
I also am willing to swap fabrics from here for crisps, chocolates and all sorts of neat things that I miss! I used to have a cross-stitch buddy that would swap me XXX mints, candies and crisps for fabrics and threads!!! My kids always had a shopping list of their favorites! Please let me know if I can be of any help.
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Originally Posted by Cuilteanna
Originally Posted by quilter on the eastern edge
With the VAT system, the price tag on the metre of fabric would be $16.95 and that is what you would pay at the register.
#66
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Originally Posted by gale
I don't know about Australia and UK but I know that just recently, the US dollar was right in line with the Canadian dollar. So other than the outrageous taxes they pay I can't imagine why it is SO much higher there. I'm a Stampin' Up demonstrator and the prices in the Canadian catalog are insane compared to the US prices.
When we were in Canada we ate at a McDonalds and for the 5 of us, it was over $30. In the US it's usually around $15-$17.
When we were in Canada we ate at a McDonalds and for the 5 of us, it was over $30. In the US it's usually around $15-$17.
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Originally Posted by loopywren
Thats a good idea to quilt onto fleece blanket for lap quilts, I can buy oneof those for just £3.99 and 2 would probably do 3 quilts. it would wash okay would it? I presume you would have checked that. thanks for idea. Gwen
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Originally Posted by Cuilteanna
Originally Posted by loopywren
Thats a good idea to quilt onto fleece blanket for lap quilts, I can buy oneof those for just £3.99 and 2 would probably do 3 quilts. it would wash okay would it? I presume you would have checked that. thanks for idea. Gwen
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It seems a natural assumptions that prices are based on various rational considerations.
Rational considerations are the costs of making the product and all the costs of doing business, from advertising to delivering the product to the doors of people as well as taxes, fees and other ways the government extracts money from unsuspecting people.
This is however only the basis for the MINIMUM (break-even) price.
The by far more relevant factor in pricing products has absolutely nothing to do with any kind of thought that could appear rational to consumers:
Merchants in general charge what the market will bear. No research institute, no university, no think tank has better or more updated demographics than the big merchandizers.
Here is what merchants actually do: They use their demographics to determine 'what the market will bear' and then have their cost calculators determine whether this is enough over cost. Enough is a relative term. "The business of business is business."(Adam Smith, Founding Father of the Free Enterprise System, sort of) People are in the business to make as much money as they possibly can. It's the nature of business as we practice it.
This system will eat us all, unless we start to be savvy consumers. When I heard what Chinese companies were doing to manipulate their Indian counterparts out of business I startet hording fabrics. I had much fun and now have enough fabric for at least 10 years.
There is only one lever to get this system back into balance. Stop buying for a while.
Most of the merchants NEED to maintain their cashflow to pay the bankers. That's how we get to see lower prices again - wherever we are. (The price at the product originators is below the relevance threshold. Remember, it is demographics that determines the price. People are more interested in quilting and crafting. So naturally, the craft and quilting store prices are (quite predictably) over the moon.)
Rational considerations are the costs of making the product and all the costs of doing business, from advertising to delivering the product to the doors of people as well as taxes, fees and other ways the government extracts money from unsuspecting people.
This is however only the basis for the MINIMUM (break-even) price.
The by far more relevant factor in pricing products has absolutely nothing to do with any kind of thought that could appear rational to consumers:
Merchants in general charge what the market will bear. No research institute, no university, no think tank has better or more updated demographics than the big merchandizers.
Here is what merchants actually do: They use their demographics to determine 'what the market will bear' and then have their cost calculators determine whether this is enough over cost. Enough is a relative term. "The business of business is business."(Adam Smith, Founding Father of the Free Enterprise System, sort of) People are in the business to make as much money as they possibly can. It's the nature of business as we practice it.
This system will eat us all, unless we start to be savvy consumers. When I heard what Chinese companies were doing to manipulate their Indian counterparts out of business I startet hording fabrics. I had much fun and now have enough fabric for at least 10 years.
There is only one lever to get this system back into balance. Stop buying for a while.
Most of the merchants NEED to maintain their cashflow to pay the bankers. That's how we get to see lower prices again - wherever we are. (The price at the product originators is below the relevance threshold. Remember, it is demographics that determines the price. People are more interested in quilting and crafting. So naturally, the craft and quilting store prices are (quite predictably) over the moon.)
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Originally Posted by deltadawn
I have paid over £13-00 per metre which according to todays exchange rate equals about $20.00. So when I read of you picking up bargains at less than $5.00 - I'm a little green with envy.............can you forgive me?!!!
I found a new fabric shop in Londonderry today. Unfortunatly I was passing by on business and couldn't stop. A four hour return journey. Stopping and shopping would have made my day!
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