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    Old 06-09-2015, 05:15 PM
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    My Elna only uses Schmertz needles. She intensely dislikes Singer needles. My slant needle Singer 301s both aren't fussy. Right now they are using an off brand I bought on ebay at $9.99 for 100 needles. The vintage Montgomery Wards machines don't care either. The Necchi has sewn with these "Orange' brand needles and did a nice job FMQ. So, of all my machines I've used, only the Elna is fussy.
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    Old 06-09-2015, 06:20 PM
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    The only time I have had a machine that was fussy about needles is my 306W , It takes a different size( Length ) needle . I am getting concerned that they are getting hard to come by.
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    Old 06-09-2015, 06:33 PM
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    It used to be that they were all pretty much the same thing. Singer, as a company, has gotten sloppy. The Singer needles are not always consistent. I wouldn't use them, even in a Singer. I personally just use Schmetz or Bernina, which both have the 130 705H configuration. All brands of domestic sewing machines that we service, get a Schmetz needle to sew off with. That includes everything from a treadle to the big embroidery machines. The only exception is the Singer slant needle and some sergers.
    Annette, which needles do you recommend for the slant shank machines? I have a Singer 301a and I plan to put it on my frame. Thank you, Gina
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    Old 06-09-2015, 08:49 PM
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    Singer makes one specifically for slant needles. Don't have the package with me. But I believe the package specifically says it's for slant needles.

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    Originally Posted by quiltedsunshine
    Singer makes one specifically for slant needles. Don't have the package with me. But I believe the package specifically says it's for slant needles.

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    Annette, I've never heard of a slant needle. What's the difference? I use Organ needles in all of my machines that use a 15x1 including my 301s and 404. Never had a problem. I don't use Schmetz any more because I've found the quality lacking since they moved production to India, and compared to what I can buy Organ for, more expensive.

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    Old 06-10-2015, 04:13 AM
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    I read "somewhere" - that of the three brands I mentioned - and same 15x1 system - that the

    Singer needles were the longest, and the Organ needles were the shortest. Or maybe I have it turned around.
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    Old 06-10-2015, 06:03 AM
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    I wasn't aware that the slant foot machines took special needles. I've looked on Sew Classic and she doesn't have "special" needles for the slant foot machines.
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    I have 6 221 Featherweights dating from the 1930s to the 1960s, the first machine I ever bought, a 1971 Singer, and a Singer treadle machine from the 1930s, and I use Schmetz needles in all of them. The store you bought your machine from may tell you to use a particular brand of needle, but they probably sell them, too. I have two Berninas and have used Schmetz, Bernina, Organ and Superior Thread needles in them, and they all did fine. I bought a 301 for my daughter, showed her how to oil and lube it, gave her a new Schmetz needle, and off she sewed.

    IMHO, what is important is using the correct needle and thread with the correct fabric. I use ball point needles for knits and fleece, and and I use sharps for natural fibers (cotton, wool, linen, etc.). I use 60/8 needles with polyester thread; 70/10 and 80/12 needles with 50/3 and 60/3 threads; and 90/14 for heavier fabrics (like denim), for quilting and for purse/craft construction.

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    Don't think the brands matter EXCEPT for Singer. Singer machines want Singer needles.

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    Old 06-10-2015, 08:03 AM
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    I use Schmetz in my Bernina and Groz Beckert in my LA. When I bought my Bernina (15 years ago) my dealer told me to never use Singer needles. She said they are just a smidge too long and over time will damage my hook assembly so I just always use Schmetz.
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    I have used organ, schmetz, klasse, and superior(which are also needles manufactured by organ) in my brothers and babylock with no issues
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