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    Old 03-25-2010, 04:39 AM
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    Originally Posted by kwhite
    Ladies. None of us were there. No one that we know were there. It has been proven over and over that a good lot of "history" we know has been "embellished".
    I choose to beleive it can be true. JJ chooses to beleive it is not. No one will ever be able to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is or is not so let's agree to dissagree and discuss the actual point, beautiful quilts.
    I couldn't agree more, although I do love a good debate. I just never could wrap my head around the idea because what if someone that wasn't part of the UR had a similar quilt and washed it? It could have meant real trouble. But just because that's my thoughts doesn't mean it couldn't have happened. I also have a hard time imagining a king beheading or otherwise killing his wives but I guess that happened too. But as you said, let's get back to quilts!
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    Old 03-25-2010, 05:14 AM
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    Wowsers

    -I didn't realize this would be such a touchy subject. I guess I've always heard about not discussing politics and religion, I might be adding underground railroad quilts to that list. :)

    But really like other posters have said, it will be a nice way to talk about the underground railroad, black history, and craftsmanship, and quilting etc.

    So either way it will be a good conductor for teaching, as well as a warm and comfy quilt. :)

    Thanks for everyone's feedback. And I didn't mean to stir up any hard feelings. I guess we all have our own opinions on the subject and we can agree to disagree.
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    Old 03-25-2010, 05:23 AM
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    Originally Posted by ctmhjenn
    I have forgotten to add that I did make an Underground Railroad quilt. It was done using Eleanor Burns book.
    I made this one as well, and posted a pic of it in the Pictures section. It is now hanging in the library at our high school for a month.
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    Old 03-25-2010, 05:28 AM
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    Well said. We all have the freedom to choose what we believe. My beliefs are not going to change yours and you aren't going to change mine. It was a rousing debate though. :thumbup:
    And when all is said and done, she will love the quilt.
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    Originally Posted by kwhite
    Ladies. None of us were there. No one that we know were there. It has been proven over and over that a good lot of "history" we know has been "embellished".
    I choose to beleive it can be true. JJ chooses to beleive it is not. No one will ever be able to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is or is not so let's agree to dissagree and discuss the actual point, beautiful quilts.
    Thanks for posting this!! I hope it "nips" the arguing in the "bud". This is a quilting board ~ not a history board, nor a I'm right, your wrong board.
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    Old 03-25-2010, 06:24 AM
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    Originally Posted by miholmes
    Wowsers

    -I didn't realize this would be such a touchy subject. I guess I've always heard about not discussing politics and religion, I might be adding underground railroad quilts to that list. :)

    But really like other posters have said, it will be a nice way to talk about the underground railroad, black history, and craftsmanship, and quilting etc.

    So either way it will be a good conductor for teaching, as well as a warm and comfy quilt. :)

    Thanks for everyone's feedback. And I didn't mean to stir up any hard feelings. I guess we all have our own opinions on the subject and we can agree to disagree.
    You should definitely tell her about the debate this set off. It will add to the her quilt's own history. You could even print some of the posts off with Precious Memories and use them on the back. It would surely make for some interesting discussions in her class and perhaps inspire others to really do some in-depth research on the subject.
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    Old 03-25-2010, 06:56 AM
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    Originally Posted by raptureready
    I think that she'll love any quilt you make. Although the Underground Railroad/quilt connection is purely speculation and quite a bit of romanticized fiction, the quilt itself can be used in teaching the value of hand made creations and the stories can still be told. If you are wanting a to make a quilt that would have some true history to it, check out the Hobo Quilt. It's made using fabric interpretations of actual hobo markings. Or, come up with your own design. I'm currently working on designing a quilt depicting either the miracles or parables of Christ.
    I agree.
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    Old 03-25-2010, 12:37 PM
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    Libraries are full of works of fiction and they are certainly enjoyable, so I don't see how an URR quilt would be a problem.
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    Old 03-26-2010, 10:28 AM
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    True. Locally, when a barn was being renovated, they found a false ceiling or floor depending which floor you were on. In that crawl space, a piece of the underground quilt was found as well as a journal listing all those slaves who had found this safehouse and the journeyed on to their destination. Both of the items have been turned over to the Smithsonian in Washington, DC. Suz
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    Originally Posted by Suz
    True. Locally, when a barn was being renovated, they found a false ceiling or floor depending which floor you were on. In that crawl space, a piece of the underground quilt was found as well as a journal listing all those slaves who had found this safehouse and the journeyed on to their destination. Both of the items have been turned over to the Smithsonian in Washington, DC. Suz
    What a treasure!!! We were thrilled when we found letters from our great grandpa's brother before and during the time he was in the CW. He spoke of how cold, wet and miserable they were and how hungry. Sadly he was hit with a cannonball in the Battle of Murphysboro and died several days later. He was in a unit out of Indiana I think.
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