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    Old 05-26-2013, 08:27 AM
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    Originally Posted by Sewnoma
    BellaBoo, that is more or less what I was just told, too.

    He said I can get $1200 trade in on my 6600, and they would pay the sales tax and throw in the cone stand and an Accufeed SITD foot for the 8900, so the price came out to about $3800 out the door...BUT he didn't actually want the 6600, so he would take it as trade-in to satisfy the rules that Janome gives him, give me the $1200 credit, and then "sell" the 6600 back to me for $40 so I could either keep it as back-up or sell it somewhere else on my own. So in essence, $3840 for the new machine plus I keep the 6600.

    I thought that was a pretty good deal, but, after playing with the 8900 for a little bit, I'm not sure it's worth it to me. It's a lovely machine, purrs like a kitten and has some nice upgrades that I want to have, but maybe not enough improvement over the 6600 to warrant almost $4k out of my pocket. I'm going to have to think about it. Right now I think I'm leaning towards keeping my 6600 and waiting a few more years until I've truly outgrown it...but I also REALLY like some of the 8900's features...but then again, $4k would buy a LOT of fabric!! LOL

    One little detail I don't like about the 8900 is that you can't adjust the bobbin winder; I have my 6600 adjusted so I can wind the bobbin REALLY full, the 8900 doesn't have any way to adjust that. Minor, but I love my super full bobbins and I think I'd miss that little detail. I don't like that the top lid has to stay open to use the cone holder. Again, minor, but something I didn't like - it seemed awkward. Also it appears that you have to at least partially unthread the machine to wind a bobbin, which is a bummer. Everything else I pretty much love about that machine. We tested it and it's even smart enough to know which stitch plate is in place - if you put the straight-stitch plate on and then try to sew a zigzag stitch, it beeps at you, shows a little diagram on the screen to tell you what's wrong, and won't move the needle. Very clever! And the 9mm stitch width made the decorative stitching really look great. They added some cute stitches too; my favorites are a thread spool and a little threaded needle that fit together nicely in a chain. I actually do use decorative stitches so the larger size and more stitches is a plus.

    I wish I had the space to keep the 6600 AND get the 8900 set up in my sewing room....if I had the space that would be AWESOME and would make the deal REALLY tempting. Talk about best of both worlds! But I just don't have the room to have more than one machine set up at a time. I need to buy a bigger house! LOL
    Sheesh... that just seems like a lot of $$$ to me... it's nice, but not that nice. I paid 2K for the Janome Horizon 7700. I got a good one and it works beautifully. I looked at the 8900, but really didn't see trading it in. Now as another posted a new machine is coming out in Aug. Hmmm...
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    Old 05-26-2013, 08:54 AM
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    Originally Posted by BellaBoo
    Many dealers are going the no trade in way. One dealer told me he would be in the used machine business if he took in trade ins. He said it was better for him to offer the same deal on a new machine without a trade.
    I thought things were changing. I am seeing more and more great sewing machines listed on Craigslist that are not scams. I was wondering what was going on, whether it is the economy and ladies are selling them, or that they couldn't get a good trade-in value. Many listings even mention they upgraded as the reason for selling.
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    First, get a price without the trade in. I kept my 6600 when purchasing my 8900.
    I shopped for the best price on the 8900, without sales tax and no shipping. They also had a deal where you can pay it out over 6 months or longer at no interest....just be sure to pay it off prior to the end date.

    Go to several dealers via the net and get the best price without sales tax, then ask your dealer to match.
    If he doesn't PM me and I will give you a great dealer that I have purchased my 6600, 3160, 11000SE and now my 8900. They are the best dealer I have found and I have plenty around North Texas, but prefer my dealer in PA.
    They also give you a 15% discount on all accessories whenever you need them.

    I could not bring myself to give up my 6600 and I'm glad I kept it. It is a workhorse and in high demand.

    Your machine should fetch a much higher price than the blue book since you have only had it a year.
    But first check the price on the 8900 without a trade in. That way, they cannot gouge you on the overall deal of a trade in. After they give you a price, and make sure it is a good price by comparison and remember you will pay tax, walk away. You can always come back and tell them that you have thought about it and would like to trade in your 6600.....if they don't give you a good price on the 6600, you can always keep it, or sell it on the Yahoo groups (Janome) or on SewItsForSale group.

    I absolutely love my 8900!, however, I still use my 6600. Both are great quilting machines.

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    My dealer gives 100% trade-in (for the first 2 years) for upgrading to a new machine.
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    Old 05-26-2013, 03:37 PM
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    I traded my 6600 for a 7700,then upgraded for the 8900. I paid $2000 and got some freebies thrown in...a cone holder and a roll of washable fusible printable paper. I think the 8900 has worked out the bugs that bothered me in the earlier models.
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    My dealer offers $2000 trade in if I have a mid-range machine in great shape. I went to a Bernina Sew day, so of course I was playing with a high-end machine. I think it IS like cars, you get more for your trade-in if you are paying more for the new machine.
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    Thanks for all the advice & feedback. After playing with it a bit...I'm going to stick with my 6600. The upgrades are really nice, but not worth the price jump. I'd rather spend the money on fabric! I'll just wait until I've worn the 6600 out a bit more.
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    Originally Posted by Lady Diana
    First, get a price without the trade in. I kept my 6600 when purchasing my 8900.
    I shopped for the best price on the 8900, without sales tax and no shipping. They also had a deal where you can pay it out over 6 months or longer at no interest....just be sure to pay it off prior to the end date.

    Go to several dealers via the net and get the best price without sales tax, then ask your dealer to match.
    If he doesn't PM me and I will give you a great dealer that I have purchased my 6600, 3160, 11000SE and now my 8900. They are the best dealer I have found and I have plenty around North Texas, but prefer my dealer in PA.
    They also give you a 15% discount on all accessories whenever you need them.

    I could not bring myself to give up my 6600 and I'm glad I kept it. It is a workhorse and in high demand.

    Your machine should fetch a much higher price than the blue book since you have only had it a year.
    But first check the price on the 8900 without a trade in. That way, they cannot gouge you on the overall deal of a trade in. After they give you a price, and make sure it is a good price by comparison and remember you will pay tax, walk away. You can always come back and tell them that you have thought about it and would like to trade in your 6600.....if they don't give you a good price on the 6600, you can always keep it, or sell it on the Yahoo groups (Janome) or on SewItsForSale group.

    I absolutely love my 8900!, however, I still use my 6600. Both are great quilting machines.

    Diana
    Diana, you must be talking about Brubaker's I bought my 6600P through them 2 years ago at the Lancaster Quilt show and just got a floor model Janome 350E this weekend. Amy is fantastic and will work with you..we were talking about Janomes in general and she said that the 6600P is hands down Janome's best machine right now. Probably why it is in high demand
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    Old 05-28-2013, 02:42 AM
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    Originally Posted by Sewnoma
    BellaBoo, that is more or less what I was just told, too.

    He said I can get $1200 trade in on my 6600, and they would pay the sales tax and throw in the cone stand and an Accufeed SITD foot for the 8900, so the price came out to about $3800 out the door...BUT he didn't actually want the 6600, so he would take it as trade-in to satisfy the rules that Janome gives him, give me the $1200 credit, and then "sell" the 6600 back to me for $40 so I could either keep it as back-up or sell it somewhere else on my own. So in essence, $3840 for the new machine plus I keep the 6600.

    I thought that was a pretty good deal, but, after playing with the 8900 for a little bit, I'm not sure it's worth it to me. It's a lovely machine, purrs like a kitten and has some nice upgrades that I want to have, but maybe not enough improvement over the 6600 to warrant almost $4k out of my pocket. I'm going to have to think about it. Right now I think I'm leaning towards keeping my 6600 and waiting a few more years until I've truly outgrown it...but I also REALLY like some of the 8900's features...but then again, $4k would buy a LOT of fabric!! LOL

    One little detail I don't like about the 8900 is that you can't adjust the bobbin winder; I have my 6600 adjusted so I can wind the bobbin REALLY full, the 8900 doesn't have any way to adjust that. Minor, but I love my super full bobbins and I think I'd miss that little detail. I don't like that the top lid has to stay open to use the cone holder. Again, minor, but something I didn't like - it seemed awkward. Also it appears that you have to at least partially unthread the machine to wind a bobbin, which is a bummer. Everything else I pretty much love about that machine. We tested it and it's even smart enough to know which stitch plate is in place - if you put the straight-stitch plate on and then try to sew a zigzag stitch, it beeps at you, shows a little diagram on the screen to tell you what's wrong, and won't move the needle. Very clever! And the 9mm stitch width made the decorative stitching really look great. They added some cute stitches too; my favorites are a thread spool and a little threaded needle that fit together nicely in a chain. I actually do use decorative stitches so the larger size and more stitches is a plus.

    I wish I had the space to keep the 6600 AND get the 8900 set up in my sewing room....if I had the space that would be AWESOME and would make the deal REALLY tempting. Talk about best of both worlds! But I just don't have the room to have more than one machine set up at a time. I need to buy a bigger house! LOL

    $3840 is an astronomical price for the 8900. My local dealer has a $2999 price tag on the machine before negotiation. My mother's dealer had the same, but when she showed interest in the machine his initial offer came down to $2500. When she told him that she, two of her friends, and me (out-of-state) would like to purchase, he came down further to $2000.

    Since I'm out of state he shipped it to me for free, no sales tax. So, my Janome 8900 cost $2000.

    Your dealer is not offering you a very good deal at all.

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