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    Old 05-25-2009, 07:30 AM
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    Not to worry Ninnie. Good to see a good discussion. Just shows how dedicated we all are to our craft. I am making a few baby things right now, so just doing research on whole quilts... I will definately post my project when I get it done. Thanks for all the enthusiam. Quilter1234
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    Old 05-25-2009, 07:54 AM
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    anita

    just one correction about your thesis.

    i was the first to mention the preprinted panels. i even posted the link to benartex. i try not to promote any certain online store or ebay seller thats why i directed the original poster to benartex.

    you're opinion on what is and isn't a quilt is extremely outdated, narrow minded, and will prevent you from growing as an artist.

    if you go to any quilt show around the country you will see that the art comes in many forms and maybe if you could view things without prejudice you might actually learn a thing or two from what you consider "non-quilters".
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    Old 05-25-2009, 09:20 AM
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    it seems that we all love what we do, so much, that we protect it, like we would our family, but this board is like a family too, so I hope that this discussion can just be a, agree-to-disagree, and let's just keep creating.
    As a person, (myself), that usually tries to categorize or organize, most things, I don't do that much with this craft. I just love it all. Their is something to behold in every piece, no matter what we call it. :wink:
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    Old 05-25-2009, 09:41 AM
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    Originally Posted by anita211
    Tim,

    My quilting friends and I here in MN, think a real quilt is one that is hand quilted. I am not speaking of art quilts. I have seen some of your work, Tim, and you make a whole lot of art stuff, even though you use some traditioanal patterns. I don't care how long it takes to machine quilt something. When it is done, it is not soft usually. It can't be with metallic thread or that yucky plastic fishing line-type stuff that is used.

    I have a quilt on my bed that I bought on eBay because my old one was tearing and was close to totally worn out. It is lovely, and I am happy with it, except it isn't soft. The denseness of the stippling makes it hard. It doesn't drape nicely, to take a word from my former tailoring life. I believe that quilts should be soft. I have an antique hand quilted Amish quilt that is soft. Even after all these years, it is soft. And it drapes lovely over a railing. Hawaiian echo quilts are lovely and they are densely quilted, and they are still soft.

    I am working on a machine sewn, tied comforter. I will put in some edge stitching on the borders. It is utilitarian and will be used on my bed that also houses a dog, cat and 200 lb. man. It isn't meant to be anything other that it is. It is a bed cover. I have seen it quilted in the ditch which is almost as utilitarian as you can get, but on a large quilt, it takes time. I am doing something 'down and dirty' to get it done.

    Google Lovers Knot by Eleanor Burns to see the pattern. Or go to Amazon and do the same thing... you will find the pattern I am using. I have two rows around 42 half log cabin blocks to complete. Then a good ironing, and it will be put together and ironed again. I made the first one in a day or two, and that included cutting. This one will take a week. No biggie. I have the one that is there if I need warmth.

    I am not going to discuss what my thoughts are any longer on what is or isn't a quilt. I was trying to help with wholecloths which are hand quilted.

    I don't care what others think. I have been doing this for a long time, and feel that a real quilt is one that is machine sewn and is quilted by hand. Or, in the case of the Grandmother's Garden, the English paper piecing by hand is implemented.

    I will continue with the craft as I see fit. I bet there are people here that knit, crochet, or cross stitch also. And I bet there are as many ways to do that as there is quilting. Get off my case. I call it an art regardless of the finished product.

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    Anita,

    We are all allowed our own opinions. I'll just let your words stand by themselves.

    If you talked with anyone who has discussed quilting with me, you would know I don't do 'Art' quilts. They are very interesting but not what I am interested in doing. My quilts are used. They lie on someones bed, they are used in TV rooms to let persons or people snuggle under them while enjoying life together. None of my quilts hang on a wall.

    So off I go to work on another one of my 'bed covers'. I sure hope the couple who gets this one for their newborn appreciates that I made the 'bed cover' for them and their baby boy and won't consider that if I did it by hand, that kid would have graduated college by the time he got it.

    Please say 'Hi' to the others in your guild. I suspect I won't ever have the opportunity to ever talk with them.

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    Old 05-25-2009, 04:33 PM
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    Do any of you know Sharon Schamber? She is an Arizona quilter that has won in Paducah and is a teacher.
    Her web site has some free videos and one is on hoopless hand quilting. In my search for whole cloth info I ran across this and want to share the site.
    Just go to the area for free on line classes... there are others too. Hope you enjoy as much as I did. Even seasoned quilters may learn a few things.
    http://sharonschambernetwork.com/fre...oopless/1.html
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    Old 05-27-2009, 01:50 PM
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    Hi,

    You really don't need a good source except your brain!! Determine the size of the quilt you would like and draw a design on the fabric (usually muslin or a plain fabric). If you are good at drawing go for it. If not use templates.

    Many years ago I made one 108" x 108", all hand quilted. Took me a couple of years. I had the design drawn by a woman that did this in Canada.

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    Old 05-27-2009, 05:25 PM
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    my first quilt was a whole cloth - done for my Mother- all by hand without a hoop. didn't know a thing, just started out and did it. have done 2 more since for two of my daughters. one all white thread, other done in colors to bring out the basket of pansies. I bought four of these beautiful whole cloth tops, all hand stenciled from a sweet Amish lady - her husband helped her stencil. I doubt she is still doing, as she was elderly when I purchased six or seven years ago. truly worth the effort
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    I just finished a whole cloth quilt about a month ago. It was the first time I had tried it and it was a real treat. I will do it again.
    I found a book by Marianne Fons (Fons & Porter) called Fine Feathers, because this is what I wanted to do on my quilt, but it has several projects both large and small. I found the instructions on how to place the pattern you want to do so easy, it surprised me.
    I don't think you will get any more satisfaction from anything, like hand quilting a quilt like this.

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    Old 06-02-2009, 09:21 PM
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    Anita and Quilter:

    Have never been to Northfield, but I do know where it is...I'm in the southwestern corner of MN, near Worthingon.

    I've never yet tried a whole cloth quilt, but I do have a pattern of my late mother's, and she got it from a church group who posted a picture of it in the COF magazine! It took awhile for her to get it, as half the pattern was traced on an old bedsheet! Mom made severa of those quilts as wedding gifts, but didn't always use white thread in the quilting. She sometimes used the color the bride and groom had chosed as their color for the wedding. When mom used color, it was usually perle cotton, and it was striking against the white background. My goal is to do a whole cloth quilt for each of our children for their 10th wedding anniversaries...and two of the kids have already celebrated 7 years! Guess I'd better get a move on, huh?!?

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    Old 06-02-2009, 09:38 PM
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    Anita, your 'soapbox' was rather informative! I can remember seeing pieces of fabric my mom had used in making a dress or blouse for me sewn into a quilt top my grandmother had made. (Mom would give her all fo the remnants). In fact, the Log Cabin quilt I received from Grandma for a graduation gift has some remnants of clothing scraps from my childhood. And I've been taking DH's old jeans and cutting them apart when he no longer wears them...I've offerd to patch them, but he'd rather opt for a new pair or two...Oh, welll the backs of the legs are good yet! And yes, I do machine quilt, but it's the 'stitch-in-the-ditch' that works best for me. I'll eventually move on the the free-motion, but I have to find time to practice it!

    Thanks for your little lesson!

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