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Ninnie 02-04-2010 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by shaverg
Wow, good job. I was wondering do you use the chair that was sitting next to the frame? I noticed it has arms. I found I had to take the arms off my chair, when I use my floor frame. Do they get in your way?

Also what type of floor frame, is it a Gracie or Hinterberg? I have a frame that my husband made years ago, I still have to baste, it only has two poles and no gears. But since I don't make many bed size quilts I have not thought about getting another frame until I saw how easy it was to use yours. Mine is about 30 years old. Since I normally make something smaller, I use my PVC frame or a large hoop.


It is a Hinterberg Frame. I have had it about 11 years now. And It is called the Cadaliac :lol: :lol: Don't know why. Easy to assemble, and has longer poles that I canuse if I want to do a King, which I have done.

You are right about the chair, I cannot quilt in a chair with arms.
Here is the one I use. It has wheels on it, and I can roll around wherever I need to go. And all family members know NEVER! to sit in my quilting chair :lol: :lol:

QUILTING CHAIR
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omak 02-04-2010 01:54 PM

IMPRESSIVE!
Even I am tempted to join you <g>.
What a great teacher and encourager you are! <wave>

roselady 02-04-2010 01:56 PM

Thanks so much for this lesson! I hand quilt and I love doing it, but I only have a lap hoop and a hoop on a stand. I don't really have the room for a large frame, someday, I hope. How long did the process of setting it all up, take? Did you do it all by yourself? Are you serious about it taking about 2 months to quilt? I've been working over a year on a twin size (I have done two other tops in that time, and some other embroidery projects), but I can't imagine doing it that fast!!! How many hours a day do you quilt?

amma 02-04-2010 02:57 PM

WOW!!! Thank you for the great pictures and tutorial :D:D:D
I have a much better understanding of how you get the quilt onto the frame!!! You have picked a beautiful quilting pattern and it looks gorgeous on your quilt :D:D:D

I can't wait to watch as you progress on this quilt :D:D:D

Bobbinwinder 02-04-2010 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by omak
IMPRESSIVE!
Even I am tempted to join you <g>.
What a great teacher and encourager you are! <wave>

Oh, Omak, I sooooo agree with you...and you are another of the great teachers and encouragers.
Ninnie, you have, of course, earned all these compliments! Are you okay with all the bad weather that they're calling for around your area? Have you ever hq'd by candlelight...or oil lamp?...Not an age slam....I'm a mawmaw too...just wondering if you're as addicted as some of the hq-ers I know...LOL

Ninnie 02-05-2010 04:46 PM

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Now I have the first border over half quilted. Here is the pattern I have made up for the corners. first, drawn in, and then half quilted.

butterflywing 02-05-2010 05:23 PM

WOW!! do you combine the stencils to create a new design? you are an amazing woman!

when you pin along the edges, do the pins pull the fabric out of line? and cause dips between the pins? sometimes that happens on the quilting machine where i pin top and bottom. i end up using 1,000 pins to overcompensate.

kpc 02-05-2010 05:33 PM

Ninnie, I have the same frame, but nowhere to put it right now it's hanging in the garage :cry:.I have been making some tops to hand quilt when I talk the boys into getting rid of the pool table :roll:

Sheila Elaine 02-05-2010 06:28 PM

Ninnie, I'm picking my chin up off the floor as I awe over you hand work. My Grandmother just did SID & a few other simple patterns, but you've gone outside the box my friend. Just love the Navy/white combo. It will take time, but you have plenty of that. TTUL.......keep up the rhythm.

butterflywing 02-05-2010 08:43 PM

i forgot to ask, what happens with the center pole?

Ninnie 02-06-2010 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by butterflywing
WOW!! do you combine the stencils to create a new design? you are an amazing woman!

when you pin along the edges, do the pins pull the fabric out of line? and cause dips between the pins? sometimes that happens on the quilting machine where i pin top and bottom. i end up using 1,000 pins to overcompensate.


Yes, sometimes a stencil is too wide or not long enough, or you like part of one, and part of another, so you can change them and get the look you want. and if I get bored with quilting one pattern I might change it up some. it doesn't have to be the same all over . I will try to stick to the same theme with this one, in the shashings . I have used lots of different things around the house for patterns, A small saucer will make a pretty ropeing design, or you can use it to make a large shell design, We will see what this one tells me to do when I get the border done. :lol: :lol:
I am not sure how you put one in the frame for the longarm. With this one, getting the backing in, and getting it pinned to the front pole tight is the key. I run the pins across the pole so they will roll better, and I do make sure they are placed close together. Also using flat head pins is important, so they will roll smooth. Then I give it a roll onto the front pole before pinning the batting , also pinning it close, and the pins longways.Then giving it a half turn. Then the top .pinning it to the batting and the backing, The reason for doing it this way, is to make sure the backing is tight before pinning anything to it. Also, I have found that The Fons and Porter pins are stronger, they cost a little more, but worth it.
here is a picture of how close my pins are.after I have quilted in an area, I remove the pins, the pins holding the top to the front will be all gone before I roll it.

Ninnie 02-06-2010 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by kpc
Ninnie, I have the same frame, but nowhere to put it right now it's hanging in the garage :cry:.I have been making some tops to hand quilt when I talk the boys into getting rid of the pool table :roll:

:shock: :shock: Well, you are breaking my heart here :lol: :lol: I mean we all know quilting is way more important than pool(although I have shot a mean game of pool in my day :roll: )
I don't know how big your house is, but I would find somewhere for it. In the dinningroom or living room, If you have the same frame, it can be turned up and set along a wall when not in use.But it does take up some room. I hope you can get it set up soon, and if you need any help, I will be glad to help you.or even a porch in the spring and summer would work, just throwing an blanket over it when not in use. Good luck, and please let me know what happens.

Ninnie 02-06-2010 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by butterflywing
i forgot to ask, what happens with the center pole?

I am not sure what you want to know. The center pole has the backing and the batting rolled up on it. it unrolls as we go along.
the back pole has the top. In the picture of it empty, you can see the material on the back pole is longer, so the top can be rolled all the way to the front to finish it off. Can you post a picture of your frame empty? I would love to see it. I know someday I am going to want one, as I get older my eyes might not let me do as much hand quilting, not that you are old or anything bw :lol: :lol:
here is a picture of underneath so you can see how it looks.I have crawled underneath to get this picture for you. If that ain't love, don't know what is :lol: :lol:

k3n 02-06-2010 01:52 AM

Wow Ninnie!!!! Speechless in wonderment... wow, wow,wow! That's Amish standard quilting IMHO! :-D

butterflywing 02-06-2010 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Ninnie

Originally Posted by butterflywing
i forgot to ask, what happens with the center pole?

I am not sure what you want to know. The center pole has the backing and the batting rolled up on it. it unrolls as we go along.
the back pole has the top. In the picture of it empty, you can see the material on the back pole is longer, so the top can be rolled all the way to the front to finish it off. Can you post a picture of your frame empty? I would love to see it. I know someday I am going to want one, as I get older my eyes might not let me do as much hand quilting, not that you are old or anything bw :lol: :lol:
here is a picture of underneath so you can see how it looks.I have crawled underneath to get this picture for you. If that ain't love, don't know what is :lol: :lol:

okay: on mine, the one furthest away is the 'takeup' pole (or rail). the backing gets pinned to a leader on that. the backing then gets pinned to a leader on the second pole (sometimes called 'belly bar'). the batting gets pinned to the top of the backing, near the takeup pole. then all the way down on the fourth pole, which is near the floor. the top gets pinned over the batting, which is on the takeup pole. the other end gets pinned to the leader on the third pole.

i don't do that. that's just what the instructions say. i put the backing, battnig and top the way the say. i 'float' the batting, meaning i don't roll it at the bottom. it hangs there so i can adjust as i go. i have been rolling the top, but i'm going to 'float' that as well next time, like jackie does, again for the sake of adjusting.

so, the backing and the batting and the top will all be attached more or less like yours. except for the backing, the other ends will not be attached at all, except for side clamps that keep everything even across, and semi-tight. with machine quilting, you don't want your fabric too tight. if i find i don't like the top hanging loose, it will be a struggle to get it onto the leader. i'll have to test.

i have four poles, of which i hope to have to use only two. the batting is a pain to roll, so i never used that. and we'll see about the top. i'll try to post pictures.
if i do, i'll give you a heads-up.

Ninnie 02-06-2010 08:41 AM

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here is the corner, quilted. I am 2/3 way finished with the fisrt border :-D :-D

So, bw, if you have 4 poles, why do you only use 2? And I understand not wanting it too tight, it is the same way with hand quilting,I don't have clamps on the sides, but I do sometimes take a piece of muslin, and put it around the side, and pin the side of the bottom to it, to get it just right for hand quilting. So, you stand, and move the machine around , and the frame stays still? And do you do all of yours FM. I have seen where there are some , I think they are laser, that you trace the pattern, and it quilts it onto the quilt?
From what I have read about the FM, it takes a lot of practice and talent to do it. Do you draw your patterns onto your top, and trace them by hand? I know , I have a lot of questions, but I want to know as much as I can before going and loking at them.

butterflywing 02-06-2010 08:55 AM

it's just easier to use two and by using only two you more adjustment control of the backing and batting to prevent shifting. remember, the needle is causing vibrations along the entire quilt, so even a tiny shift now and then brings the whole thing out of whack. does shifting happen on a hand frame?

some people only ever sit on a rolling chair like yours and i have one that i sometimes use, but i mostly stand because i'm short and i want to see the whole thing as i go, and because i have trouble reaching the end furthest away from me if i sit. sometimes i fm and sometimes i chalk first. there is a shelf at the far side of the frame and pantos lay on the shelf. if you turn on the machine and follow the panto drawing with the laser light, the needle of the machine will go where it's led. there are also wood pantos. they are planks with grooves cut into them in a quilting design and you follow the design with a stylus that moves inside those grooves. again, the needle goes where it's led at the other end of the machine. i've never used either of those methods.

also, i see that you quilt from the outside edge inward. i quilt from top to the bottom as i roll. sometimes from the middle of a row outward. i don't want to get puckers in the center.

Ninnie 02-06-2010 09:42 AM

I start in the middle of the border, quilt all the way to the left, then go back to the middle, and quilt all the way to the right, for the same reasons, I do not want puckers. Getting the border done is a big first step. and soon as I can roll, I always feel better, knowing that troublesome border is done and straight. Once I have quilted as far as I can reach, I will roll it towards me.
So, you have the ability to use the laser , but you choose to do it all FM? And don't the machines that can do the laser cost a whole lot more? which is why I really need to learn FM!!
/so, as you quilt, from top to bottom, the part that is finished also rollsup out of the way? There are a lot of things that are a lot alike, but a lot that are completely different.
It is possible for mine do do some shifting also. Maybe it isn't in as straight as i thought, or something has been laid on top that gives it a swagger, or I haven't adjusted it evenly the ti me before. I can unroll, all the way back to the beginning, and re adjust if I have to. I have had to do this before :lol: :lol:

kpc 02-06-2010 09:43 AM

Ninnie,
I forgot to say that I love your quilt and quilting, it is very stunning.
Kim

PS I'll keep you up to date on the frame. I have had it in the living room, my oldest sons room, the spare bedroom ( which is now my youngest son's room, I have had it every where in my house .

mountain-moma 02-06-2010 10:19 AM

Oh my Ninnie,i so love this quilt u have chose and the stenicls it's just beautiful all i can say is Wow after i pick my jaw up from the floor(:)

Ducky 02-08-2010 02:50 PM

Your corner flowers are so pretty! Your perfect, little stitches really, really amaze me! :shock:

cutebuns 02-08-2010 02:56 PM

you are doing an awesome Job! I keep promising myself one day I will learn how to do it

mimisharon 02-09-2010 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by Ninnie

Originally Posted by mimisharon
Oh, my gosh, it's wonderful. Love your stencils.

Hugs


You know you are close enough to drive over and help me Sharon!!

And I love stencils, can't say no to one when I find it.

Don't say it unless you mean it, Ninnie. I'm going to be in your part of the state the beginning of May.....

Rymer 02-09-2010 04:40 AM

wow, amazing. you are a very patient woman and so talented! I'm honored to have one of your little beauties!! :)

Ninnie 02-09-2010 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by mimisharon

Originally Posted by Ninnie

Originally Posted by mimisharon
Oh, my gosh, it's wonderful. Love your stencils.

Hugs


You know you are close enough to drive over and help me Sharon!!

And I love stencils, can't say no to one when I find it.

Don't say it unless you mean it, Ninnie. I'm going to be in your part of the state the beginning of May.....


Sounds great to me!!! At the rate I am going, it will still be in the frame :roll: I am through with the first row, the border. So, guess I am doing ok, but it sure seems slow.

Ninnie 02-09-2010 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by Rymer
wow, amazing. you are a very patient woman and so talented! I'm honored to have one of your little beauties!! :)

Thank you Rymer!

Ninnie 02-09-2010 12:08 PM

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First border and corners are done, so I have rolled it towards me, and started on the next row. Here is the pattern that I have done so far. Quilting around the edge, and then a smaller flower in the middle.

omak 02-09-2010 12:11 PM

Beautiful! <wave>

butterflywing 02-09-2010 12:13 PM

i love this. first we got to see the whole thing go together and now we watch it get quilted. do this with all your projects. LOL!!

Ninnie 02-19-2010 02:29 AM

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Thought I would post a picture of the block quilting. the first border , and first row of sashing are done, and now the first large row is being quilted. There are 5 rows of blocks, and 6 rows of sashing. It is coming along . here are some pictures. I love the way the hearts come together to make the design in the center of the squares. Right now I have a very sore finger. I ran the threaded end of the needle half way through it yesterday :shock: But, I managed not to bleed on the quilt. :lol: :lol:

sashing stencil and markings
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Stencil for Blocks
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Block quilting
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k3n 02-19-2010 02:38 AM

Ninnie this is sooooooo beautiful! And here's a gentle, healing kiss on your poor finger smaaaack! :-D

Crlyn 02-19-2010 03:01 AM

Gorgeous, just gorgeous! You certainly know your quilting.

Congratulations!!!! :-D :-D

Ninnie 02-19-2010 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by k3n
Ninnie this is sooooooo beautiful! And here's a gentle, healing kiss on your poor finger smaaaack! :-D

:-D :-D Thanks, it feels better already!!

sewjoyce 02-19-2010 06:35 AM

WOW, Ninnie, I just found this thread!! Your quilt is just beautiful! And thanks for showing us how you get it on the frame. Your stitching is so perfect and I love the quilting stencils you're using!! :D

Quilt4u 02-19-2010 06:42 AM

Wow!!!!

RedGarnet222 02-19-2010 08:22 AM

This quilt is really going to be an heirloom when you are finished. Nice!

butterflywing 02-19-2010 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by RedGarnet222
This quilt is really going to be an heirloom when you are finished. Nice!

it's already an heirloom. and when i'm gone my children will love it just as much as i do. :lol: we're keeping it in our family. :mrgreen:

Ninnie 02-19-2010 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by RedGarnet222
This quilt is really going to be an heirloom when you are finished. Nice!

Thank you1 so glad you like it.

Ninnie 02-19-2010 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by butterflywing

Originally Posted by RedGarnet222
This quilt is really going to be an heirloom when you are finished. Nice!

it's already an heirloom. and when i'm gone my children will love it just as much as i do. :lol: we're keeping it in our family. :mrgreen:

:shock: :shock: You said it SISTER!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

butterflywing 02-19-2010 09:21 AM

xoxoxo :lol:


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