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pittsburgpam 03-09-2010 09:08 AM

It is totally my responsibility. I should have seen it when I was checking it. All I can think of is that it wasn't against a lighter background so it wasn't obvious to me.

Maybe I should start laying tops out on a white surface too see what it will look like with batting behind it and REALLY check every inch of it. It could have been anything like a tangle of dark threads that wouldn't show up otherwise.

kwilltr 03-09-2010 10:04 AM

Do you plan on entering it in a "juried" show? If so, you will know pretty quickly if the judges will accept it...If they do, then it's worthy of entering. Besides, you never know what the judges are going to zero in on.....I would go ahead and enter it! Even if you don't win a ribbon you will at least have the judges critiques!

feline fanatic 03-09-2010 10:20 AM

Pam, I would not try any stenciling on this quilt. It really is quite stunning and Judi did a show-worthy job of quilting it. I say enter it in any show you like. A smaller local show will certainly win you ribbons and a big juried show like AQS, well they nitpick everything but so what. There is nothing more exciting than seeing one of your own quilts to hang in a show. If you truly have your heart set on winning a ribbon with it (and a little cash) enter it in your county fair. I can pretty much guarantee it will win something. Because AQS is a juried show and you have to submit photos, submit a photo where you can see the shadowing. I wouldn't mention anything on the entry form. If the judges notice it and think it deters too much from the show-worthiness of the quilt, (which I really doubt) the worst that can happen is they won't accept your quilt for entry.
If you feel you must do something, I really liked your prairie point type idea with the matching border fabric. That picture you posted was really pretty enhancement. You could lay a bunch of those out before actually sewing them to know for sure if you wanted to do that or not.

GrammaNan 03-09-2010 12:12 PM

Show it with pride. If I could make a quilt like that I would fly it on my flag pole :lol:

Tootsie 03-09-2010 12:19 PM

Hey, the line looks even! Just name it Shadow Work Mystique and it'll get rave reviews. :-D

It's a gorgeous quilt; you did a fantastic job. The quilting is awesome, so enter it wherever you want with a big smile on your face!

GrammaNan 03-09-2010 12:20 PM

Tootsie, what a great idea!!

Gerbie 03-09-2010 02:32 PM

No don't tea stain it, that should be done only with a piece of cloth that hasn't been sewn, from my past experience, even then the tea stain is not always well distributed on the fabric, I tea stained the fabric on a table cloth years ago and found that out. Just leave it as is and enter it or whatever you plan to do with it, but please just don't start tampering with it now, it is too gorgeous to mess up.

skpkatydid 03-09-2010 03:56 PM

Tea/coffee staining the whole thing might work and give it that heirloom quality.

Chrickett 03-09-2010 04:09 PM

Just think dear one,
we are but human and mistakes are happy accidents, something to treasure and not worry over. I have made lots of mistakes and found them after year or so of using, it still keptus warm and every one that saw it thought it was georgus, so get off your pitty party and enter that wonderful quilt ;









Originally Posted by pittsburgpam
It is totally my responsibility. I should have seen it when I was checking it. All I can think of is that it wasn't against a lighter background so it wasn't obvious to me.

Maybe I should start laying tops out on a white surface too see what it will look like with batting behind it and REALLY check every inch of it. It could have been anything like a tangle of dark threads that wouldn't show up otherwise.


AnnaF 03-09-2010 07:04 PM

I am a longarm quilter and I don't feel I'm responsible for a seam being pressed the wrong way. And generally even if I wanted to fix it it would mean taking out seams in order to press another way as that seam would be trapped by other seams. I feel it's the responsibility of the quilter to prepare the quilt for quilting. I don't advertise repair work in my list of services, if a quilt comes in with serious issues, such as wavy borders, etc, I will ask the client to fix the problem or in some cases offer to do it for a fee. I will explain how the problem is going to affect the quilting. I quilt for a wide range of quilters, some beginners, some very experienced quilters, I am not the quilt police...I'm not here to judge, my job is to quilt that quilt to very best of my ability. I take offense, dgmoby, when you suggest that she should look for another quilter. When I'm working on a quilt and see a shadow caused from being flipped the wrong way, I feel bad that it's there, but do I take the responsibilty for it. Absolutely not.

zz-pd 03-09-2010 10:07 PM

that is so beautiful. Penny

zz-pd 03-09-2010 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by dgmoby
Did you have this professionally quilted? I would be asking my quilter about this...since I quilt, I can say this :) Most quilters press before the quilting, so this would have been pressed to the border. Certainly we see it before the quilting.

I think it might prevent it from winning a ribbon...sorry to say. But really that would depend upon the show - how large it is. It is a beautiful quilt - and you did an amazing job.

It may be one you end up just enjoying...but on the other hand, if you do enter it once, you'll know based upon the comments. I would have to think twice about the quilter...

Just my thoughts....

I am just learning to make quilts, but if I sent a quilt out to be quilted, and my quilter did not contact me and ask what I wanted done about the problem before she quilted it. Penny

zz-pd 03-09-2010 10:26 PM

wow I like the little point you added.

Ellen 1 03-09-2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pittsburgpam
........I had gone over and over this top before deciding that I was ready to send it off for quilting and I never realized that I hadn't trimmed the dark border fabric. Now it shows underneath the lighter fabric...............

Hi Pam,
Pesonally, I like the critique that I get from entering a show. If you want the critique, I'd say go ahead and enter it. The judges will notice and comment about the dark fabric showing through, but you will also get comments regarding the quilt as a whole and there may be benefits from that critique for you. I scribe for judges and know their critiques are to help the individual improve their skills. They may tell you something else that you hadn't noticed or thought of and you will say, "ahhh-ha!"

A personal example: I had entered a quilt that I had used polka-dot fabric for the binding. I though I had been very clever and liked the "look". When I got my critique back, the comment about the binding really surprised me. (As I best remember wtihout having to look it up), the comment said to be careful when using polka-dot fabric because it made the binding look crooked.....hummmm.....when I looked at my quilt, it was staring me in the face and I had not noticed it before I read the critique......most of it looked great, but one side did look crooked becaue of the dots. :-( So glad to know that now. If I were to use polka-dots again, I'd really pay attention to my cutting and how it was laying while attachiing the binding. Ellen

zz-pd 03-10-2010 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Ellen 1

Originally Posted by pittsburgpam
........I had gone over and over this top before deciding that I was ready to send it off for quilting and I never realized that I hadn't trimmed the dark border fabric. Now it shows underneath the lighter fabric...............

Hi Pam,
Pesonally, I like the critique that I get from entering a show. If you want the critique, I'd say go ahead and enter it. The judges will notice and comment about the dark fabric showing through, but you will also get comments regarding the quilt as a whole and there may be benefits from that critique for you. I scribe for judges and know their critiques are to help the individual improve their skills. They may tell you something else that you hadn't noticed or thought of and you will say, "ahhh-ha!"

A personal example: I had entered a quilt that I had used polka-dot fabric for the binding. I though I had been very clever and liked the "look". When I got my critique back, the comment about the binding really surprised me. (As I best remember wtihout having to look it up), the comment said to be careful when using polka-dot fabric because it made the binding look crooked.....hummmm.....when I looked at my quilt, it was staring me in the face and I had not noticed it before I read the critique......most of it looked great, but one side did look crooked becaue of the dots. :-( So glad to know that now. If I were to use polka-dots again, I'd really pay attention to my cutting and how it was laying while attachiing the binding. Ellen

that is a beautiful quilt, and so different. I like it very much. Penny

Ellen 1 03-10-2010 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by penny doty

Originally Posted by Ellen 1

Originally Posted by pittsburgpam
........I had gone over and over this top before deciding that I was ready to send it off for quilting and I never realized that I hadn't trimmed the dark border fabric. Now it shows underneath the lighter fabric...............

Hi Pam,
Pesonally, I like the critique that I get from entering a show. If you want the critique, I'd say go ahead and enter it. The judges will notice and comment about the dark fabric showing through, but you will also get comments regarding the quilt as a whole and there may be benefits from that critique for you. I scribe for judges and know their critiques are to help the individual improve their skills. They may tell you something else that you hadn't noticed or thought of and you will say, "ahhh-ha!"

A personal example: I had entered a quilt that I had used polka-dot fabric for the binding. I though I had been very clever and liked the "look". When I got my critique back, the comment about the binding really surprised me. (As I best remember wtihout having to look it up), the comment said to be careful when using polka-dot fabric because it made the binding look crooked.....hummmm.....when I looked at my quilt, it was staring me in the face and I had not noticed it before I read the critique......most of it looked great, but one side did look crooked becaue of the dots. :-( So glad to know that now. If I were to use polka-dots again, I'd really pay attention to my cutting and how it was laying while attachiing the binding. Ellen

that is a beautiful quilt, and so different. I like it very much. Penny

Can you see what I was talking about with the crooked binding?? It isn't, but looks that way with the polka-dot fabric.

Quilter7x 03-10-2010 09:46 AM

I can see it in the picture, on the right side. I would never have thought to worry about matching the dots on the fabric.

pittsburgpam 03-10-2010 09:52 AM

Patterns aren't always printed exactly straight with the grain of the fabric so it could be tricky to get it to look that way.

I often use border fabric that has a specific pattern that has to be fussy cut right on a point in the pattern. If I wasn't doing that and just layed the fabric how it wants to lay and cut straight, it wouldn't always be straight. I have to lay my 24" ruler along the line I want and slightly pull the fabric up or down to line it up.

zz-pd 03-10-2010 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Ellen 1

Originally Posted by penny doty

Originally Posted by Ellen 1

Originally Posted by pittsburgpam
........I had gone over and over this top before deciding that I was ready to send it off for quilting and I never realized that I hadn't trimmed the dark border fabric. Now it shows underneath the lighter fabric...............

Hi Pam,
Pesonally, I like the critique that I get from entering a show. If you want the critique, I'd say go ahead and enter it. The judges will notice and comment about the dark fabric showing through, but you will also get comments regarding the quilt as a whole and there may be benefits from that critique for you. I scribe for judges and know their critiques are to help the individual improve their skills. They may tell you something else that you hadn't noticed or thought of and you will say, "ahhh-ha!"

A personal example: I had entered a quilt that I had used polka-dot fabric for the binding. I though I had been very clever and liked the "look". When I got my critique back, the comment about the binding really surprised me. (As I best remember wtihout having to look it up), the comment said to be careful when using polka-dot fabric because it made the binding look crooked.....hummmm.....when I looked at my quilt, it was staring me in the face and I had not noticed it before I read the critique......most of it looked great, but one side did look crooked becaue of the dots. :-( So glad to know that now. If I were to use polka-dots again, I'd really pay attention to my cutting and how it was laying while attachiing the binding. Ellen

that is a beautiful quilt, and so different. I like it very much. Penny

Can you see what I was talking about with the crooked binding?? It isn't, but looks that way with the polka-dot fabric.

Yes and thank you for the information, I am teaching myself to quilt, so all the info is helpful. Penny

redpurselady 03-10-2010 02:12 PM

Your quilt is stunning - I'm so sorry your quilter didn't have the presence of mind to stop and let you know about the dark fabric. Nonetheless, you did a beautiful job.

grammypatty7 03-10-2010 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by pittsburgpam
I got this quilt out to look it over, considering blocking and binding, etc. and I noticed something. Look at the dark inner border around the center star. When I made it the width of that border had to be pretty exact so that the next row of blocks fit correctly. I drew the line that the row of blocks had to line up with for sewing.

I had gone over and over this top before deciding that I was ready to send it off for quilting and I never realized that I hadn't trimmed the dark border fabric. Now it shows underneath the lighter fabric.

The quilt guild and chapter I belong to have been attending these issues and recently brought in 2 judges to address our monthly meetings and they did slide show presentations and a trunk show of their award winning quilts. What they did was point out all of the faults in those quilts that should have kept them out of being entered into a juried show yet they all placed. Those faults did not prevent them from placing so they told us that although we do know the basic guilt show guidelines, we don't know the judges so that if we have what we consider to be a beautiful quilt, faults and all, we should still go ahead and enter them. The worst thing is they would be on display and not place. Your quilt is stunning and I do feel you should enter your quilt and see how it does. We all make mistakes. I'm surprised the quilter didn't give you a heads up so you could have fixed that. good luck. Enjoy your gorgeous quilt.
Patty




I believe that may be totally unacceptable and maybe I should forget about entering this quilt in any shows.

Please... honest opinions? Is that a show stopper? Should I just be happy with the wonderful quilt it is and forget about showing it?


JUNEC 03-10-2010 03:31 PM

I can see what you are talking about - but GOSH, it is just beautiful.
June

zz-pd 03-10-2010 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by pittsburgpam
I got this quilt out to look it over, considering blocking and binding, etc. and I noticed something. Look at the dark inner border around the center star. When I made it the width of that border had to be pretty exact so that the next row of blocks fit correctly. I drew the line that the row of blocks had to line up with for sewing.

I had gone over and over this top before deciding that I was ready to send it off for quilting and I never realized that I hadn't trimmed the dark border fabric. Now it shows underneath the lighter fabric.

I believe that may be totally unacceptable and maybe I should forget about entering this quilt in any shows.

Please... honest opinions? Is that a show stopper? Should I just be happy with the wonderful quilt it is and forget about showing it?

I am sorry I just have to replie again every inch of that is so stunningly beautiful, the pieceing,the color,and the quilting. I could sit here all day and never get tired of looking at it. Penny

Sheree from Chicago 03-10-2010 11:45 PM

It is a stunning quilt!

sadie's baby 03-12-2010 05:51 PM

I'm still very new to this forum. I'm curious though, do these infamous judges subscribe to these sites, and if so, haven't you already shown your hand?

Also, isn't it traditional to have one imperfection in your handwork on purpose, out of respect to the Perfect Creator ;) (Personally, I never have to make a "mistake" on purpose; there are plenty anyway.)

Your daughter is a very lucky girl.

pittsburgpam 03-12-2010 06:03 PM

I guess I will just leave it as it is so there is nothing to "hide". Doesn't matter if anyone sees it.

No, I don't have to try and make mistakes, I almost always do.

shopbelt 03-12-2010 06:14 PM

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Years ago I entered this doll in a county fair. She wasn't perfect either and I was told she would never place because I chose the wrong wig... etc. What Ever! - long story short, she won best in category and best in show.

You just never know!

Pouty
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pittsburgpam 03-12-2010 06:21 PM

That's a beautiful doll! There's nothing at all "wrong" with her hair! I guess it does show that people who are supposed experts don't know everything. ;)

sadie's baby 03-12-2010 06:32 PM

By the way Pam, I hope what I wrote didn't seem rude, but I'm deeply sorry if it did. Sometimes things sound witty in my head, but not when they come out. I feel lucky just to have seen this quilt in photos. It's what inspired me to join the site!

pittsburgpam 03-12-2010 07:24 PM

No, I didn't think it was rude at all. I too have thought that lots of others have seen the quilt, here, on blogs, and even on MQ Resources.

It's ok with me and makes me happy that people like it. I used to joke that it was my signature to make a mistake in every single quilt. I have done ones so absolutely carefully to NOT make a mistake and I STILL do! Sometimes not noticing until it's done.

kd124 03-12-2010 09:46 PM

Pam, your quilt is stunning, and Green Fairy did such an amazing job on the quilting. I went to her site to see all of the pics there, and I keep going back to look at it. I am so sorry about the line. I'm with those that say to incorporate the shadow into the title. It is still gorgeous!

joy 03-12-2010 10:21 PM

Stunning... no other word describes it... enter that quilt and stop the show.... I can just imagine the crowds gazing in awe !!!

Maksi 03-13-2010 12:45 AM

I don't see it. Your quilt is stunning!

sandpat 03-13-2010 05:47 AM

Pam, I'm glad you've made your decision....I just love that quilt sooo much!

zz-pd 03-13-2010 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by shopbelt
Years ago I entered this doll in a county fair. She wasn't perfect either and I was told she would never place because I chose the wrong wig... etc. What Ever! - long story short, she won best in category and best in show.

You just never know!

That is a beautiful doll, I would treasure it for ever. thank you for sharing. Penny

shopbelt 03-13-2010 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by penny doty
That is a beautiful doll, I would treasure it for ever. thank you for sharing. Penny

Thank you... she was my first attempt at an antique reproduction and she has several flaws. I made her without a class - just copying and didn't really know what I was doing. I made the dress out of gauze, and those are my grandmother's pearl buttons - true antiques.

My point was that sometimes the judges overlook the flaws because they like what they see. And I absolutely LOVE this quilt! I wish I had the talent to make quilts this lovely.

zz-pd 03-13-2010 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by shopbelt

Originally Posted by penny doty
That is a beautiful doll, I would treasure it for ever. thank you for sharing. Penny

Thank you... she was my first attempt at an antique reproduction and she has several flaws. I made her without a class - just copying and didn't really know what I was doing. I made the dress out of gauze, and those are my grandmother's pearl buttons - true antiques.

My point was that sometimes the judges overlook the flaws because they like what they see. And I absolutely LOVE this quilt! I wish I had the talent to make quilts this lovely.

Your very welcome. And I too wish I had that kind of talent. Penny

pittsburgpam 03-13-2010 01:00 PM

Most often when you do what you love, you'll be good at it. When I was first starting out in my career, a real one after working in dead-end jobs, an older co-worker told me, "Do what you love, the money will come."

I'm not quilting for the money and might never make a red cent from it but, the advice still applies.

pittsburgpam 03-13-2010 01:03 PM

I've been working all morning on getting the quilt ready to bind. I trimmed it square, ironed/pieced/starched and folded the binding and ready to put it on.

Need something for lunch first before I start that. I hope to get it all done, including the hand sewing on the back, this weekend. Also need to get the sleeve done and good pictures taken if I'm going to enter it into a certain show that has a looming deadline.

sandpat 03-13-2010 04:27 PM

Those things will finish up quickly for you Pam...Best of luck to you in the show! I know it will turn many a head, no matter what!


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