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OurWorkbench 05-23-2019 05:59 PM

The HA-1 aka 15 clone manual can be found at http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...ion-manual.pdf

The thread regarding tension assemblies, that Miriam did, can be found at https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...e-t269712.html

There are a variety of tension assemblies on 15 clones. I can't find it now, but it seems like there was a 15 clone that had a tension assembly like is shown on page 17 of an adjusters manual for the 15-91 (and others) that can be found at http://parts.singerco.com/IPinstManuals/15-91.pdf It seems like I have also seen a tension assembly similar to the one on my 115 as shown on page 13 of http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...ine-manual.pdf

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I looked in my spreadsheet and I don't have any JA or JC numbers listed for any of my clones. It doesn't mean they don't have any, I just didn't put them on the spreadsheet if they did.

Hope this helps.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Santiago 05-23-2019 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by OurWorkbench (Post 8256997)
The HA-1 aka 15 clone manual can be found at http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...ion-manual.pdf

The thread regarding tension assemblies, that Miriam did, can be found at https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...e-t269712.html

There are a variety of tension assemblies on 15 clones. I can't find it now, but it seems like there was a 15 clone that had a tension assembly like is shown on page 17 of an adjusters manual for the 15-91 (and others) that can be found at http://parts.singerco.com/IPinstManuals/15-91.pdf It seems like I have also seen a tension assembly similar to the one on my 115 as shown on page 13 of http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...ine-manual.pdf

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I looked in my spreadsheet and I don't have any JA or JC numbers listed for any of my clones. It doesn't mean they don't have any, I just didn't put them on the spreadsheet if they did.

Hope this helps.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.


Thank you mine look like the one on your 115.

CJacobs 06-17-2019 06:15 AM

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Mine is almost identical to the Kingston (the first photo) except mine is badged Rotary Electric. I would love to find a copy of the owners manual so I learn more about her.

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DKrenek 06-15-2020 09:41 AM

My Clone
 
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Found this Japan badged General at a garage sale for $25. Can’t seem to find much info but she is clean and she works great!

OurWorkbench 06-15-2020 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by DKrenek (Post 8393637)
Found this Japan badged General at a garage sale for $25. Can’t seem to find much info but she is clean and she works great!

Welcome, DKrenek. Nice looking machine. It looks like you may be missing the adapter (or attachment foot) for some of those attachments. More than likely those are Greist attachments and a manual can be found at
https://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollec.../sil10-215.pdf On page 8 of the pdf shows the attachment foot and then how to attach the binder, hemmers and edgestitcher. I'm guessing that you won't find much info on your particular machine as there were so many made in Japan. I'm guessing probably it was made in the mid-1950s. Many of the 15 clone machines do not have a JA or JC number, but some do.

A manual for a machine much like yours can be found at https://tinkerbeth2.files.wordpress..../01/morse1.pdf However, that manual shows a drop feed on the bed of the machine, which the General does not have.

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DKrenek 06-16-2020 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by OurWorkbench (Post 8393787)
Welcome, DKrenek. Nice looking machine. It looks like you may be missing the adapter (or attachment foot) for some of those attachments. More than likely those are Greist attachments and a manual can be found at
https://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollec.../sil10-215.pdf On page 8 of the pdf shows the attachment foot and then how to attach the binder, hemmers and edgestitcher. I'm guessing that you won't find much info on your particular machine as there were so many made in Japan. I'm guessing probably it was made in the mid-1950s. Many of the 15 clone machines do not have a JA or JC number, but some do.

A manual for a machine much like yours can be found at https://tinkerbeth2.files.wordpress..../01/morse1.pdf However, that manual shows a drop feed on the bed of the machine, which the General does not have.

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Thank you, wonderful links and information! I wouldn’t have known about the foot attachment missing, will be on the lookout for it. I have two Montgomery Ward machines from the 70’s and 80’s that belonged to me and my daughter that has been in the garage, didn’t have the heart to throw them away so I dug them out. After a thorough cleaning and oiling both are humming along fine! Forgot how heavy duty they were, my newestSinger is almost all plastic compared to the old work horses!

figrochad 11-10-2020 05:50 PM

Need help
 
Have a MACY SPECIAL I cant find any information on it. It old and in rough condion would like to know more about it and to restore it if possible. Does any one know any resources on a MACY Special?

OurWorkbench 11-10-2020 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by figrochad (Post 8431988)
Have a MACY SPECIAL I cant find any information on it. It old and in rough condion would like to know more about it and to restore it if possible. Does any one know any resources on a MACY Special?

Does it look like the pictures on the first page of this thread? Somewhere in the thread there should be a link to ismacs.net for a manual that will work for a 15-clone.

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ladyinpurple135 11-11-2020 04:08 PM

I’m looking forward to all the pictures - my 15-91 (if I remember correctly) belonged to my MIL and is still up in NY. We inherited the house and will be up,there for Thanksgiving so I’ll take some pictures in a couple weeks. It hasn’t been used in many years and I’ve been wanting to see if it will even work. I know absolutely nothing about these machines so I may be asking for help!!!!

Sandy in Mooresville, NC

JamaDear 02-15-2021 07:13 AM

Electro-Grand De Luxe
 

Originally Posted by jlm5419 (Post 4596668)
This is mine. Made in Japan. Love the color and fancy faceplate. It was bought around 1953. It says "ElectroGrand Deluxe Precision"

I have the same machine that was given to me many years ago, I just cleaned and oiled it and she sews wonderful. Thanks for sharing, I was wondering when it was made. I still cant find a model number, but I guess its considered a Singer 15 clone LOL

hyakinthia 10-24-2021 10:04 AM

Haines 105 DeLuxe Zigzag
 
I see there's been some similar machines posted, but I think this is a new badge! I got this Haines badged machine a couple months ago, free, from a friend of a friend. After scouring the internet for a manual (as is the tradition), I have found only 2 with the same front accessory layout, one badged Stratavario, the other Remington. It's stamped DZC on the bottom of the plate.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0
The Remington even has the same colorway and case. The badges on those machines are nicer though- molded and properly screwed on, with the same crown as on the dial here. This is a sticker! My hunch, since I live in Virginia, is that this machine might have been genericized and sold by the Haines department store that used to be in DC. I only got that hint because the building is still called the Haines Building. I haven't been able to verify anything though.

I have replaced the motor (matching pink, RIP). There's a slipped gear in the stitch width mechanism and it won't travel properly. I think you can see in the picture the dial and setting indicator don't match up. I'm currently trying to get enough pieces out that I can correct that and reassemble it. It's very frustrating, because I am having trouble getting at the little screws down in the cast iron case! I don't want to strip or chip the gears brute forcing it.

Chima 04-14-2022 01:40 AM

Spoiler
 



[7709335]Hello everyone,

I am new to the board and wanted to contribute to this thread with my SHMEN treadle sewing machine.
I am desperately trying to find out more about this machine.
It is definitely a clone 15 and in a very good condition, sews superbly (I think). And I also think she is beautiful!:cool:
If anyone can identify the "SHMEN" badge or provide any insight whatsoever as to where she may have been built, I shall be highly grateful.
I have the original Operator's Manual that I can share with anyone interested. The manual states, 'printed in India'. Should I assume possibly built in India too? The machine was bought new in 1968.
I am new to this and I think I have caught the virus.
Greetings to all from far away Athens, Greece.

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This is a great board :thumbup: and I have already learnt a lot.
Thanks.[/QUOQUOT

OurWorkbench 04-14-2022 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by Chima (Post 8547497)
My wife just bought a SHMEN sewing machine in Lagos Nigeria. I've never come across that brand so I did a search in the SHMEN brand and came across your write up. Could you please share your original operators manual with me?

Originally Posted by loucos (Post 7709335)
Hello everyone,

I am new to the board and wanted to contribute to this thread with my SHMEN treadle sewing machine.
I am desperately trying to find out more about this machine.
It is definitely a clone 15 and in a very good condition, sews superbly (I think). And I also think she is beautiful!:cool:
If anyone can identify the "SHMEN" badge or provide any insight whatsoever as to where she may have been built, I shall be highly grateful.
I have the original Operator's Manual that I can share with anyone interested. The manual states, 'printed in India'. Should I assume possibly built in India too? The machine was bought new in 1968.
I am new to this and I think I have caught the virus.
Greetings to all from far away Athens, Greece.

https://www.quiltingboard.com/attach..._model_15a.jpg

https://www.quiltingboard.com/attach...5&d=1480520643

This is a great board :thumbup: and I have already learnt a lot.
Thanks.


I think I have this quote fixed as Chima meant it to read. The user Loucos hasn't been on for close to five years.

There is a manual that should work at http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...ion-manual.pdf The stitch length regulator is shaped differently and perhaps the position of the lever for the stitch length for straight sewing versus reverse stitching. If it is like the one picture above you will notice that there is a "R" at the bottom and numbers on the top. If the lever/knob is at the bottom like in the picture above it is set to sew in reverse.

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Chima 04-14-2022 08:03 AM

Shmen sewing machine
 
Thanks so much for sharing this manual.

JuliaB 05-30-2022 01:09 AM

Spoiler
 


OurWorkbench 05-30-2022 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by JuliaB (Post 8553802)
Hi, Lukos, I also have sewing machine Shmen and I'm looking for some information about it. I'll be really appreciate if you share with me the manual......

Welcome to Quilting Board. Loucas has not been on QB for over 5 years.
The manual found at http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...ion-manual.pdf should be close. If it has the stitch length regulator like Loucas' then the lever for reverse would be at the bottom rather than like the one in the manual I linked to.


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OurWorkbench 07-15-2022 05:45 AM

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I was doing some research on 15 clones. I have a few ;). One is badged "Everlasting" and is a hand crank. I haven't had it out for a while, but have some pictures of it. I am not sure if it Japanese or Chinese.

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PTM 09-29-2023 07:48 AM

Japanese Machine Argo Sales
 
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Can anyone help me identify this machine for parts? I'm thinking of buying it, but don't know anything about antique machines and would like to know at least how to service it. It only comes with the foot and a bobbin.

OurWorkbench 09-29-2023 08:21 AM

As mentioned above a manual can be found at http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...ion-manual.pdf which has oiling points. Sometimes the old oil has hardened and may be stiff.

Some of the parts can be taken off and cleaned and polished. Generally, these machines don't need much in maintenance or service. Parts should be easy to obtain, even bobbin cases. Any low shank straight stitch foot will work. Some feel that the clones are as good or maybe even better than Singer original 15 machines. Some have had trouble with some of the newer 15 class bobbins working on original Singer 15 class machines, because the notch to fit on the bobbin winder isn't large enough. However, I haven't heard of that problem with the clones. I have a Sidewinder, so don't worry about not being able to wind a bobbin.

PTM 09-29-2023 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by OurWorkbench (Post 8618996)
As mentioned above a manual can be found at http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...ion-manual.pdf which has oiling points. Sometimes the old oil has hardened and may be stiff.

Some of the parts can be taken off and cleaned and polished. Generally, these machines don't need much in maintenance or service. Parts should be easy to obtain, even bobbin cases. Any low shank straight stitch foot will work. Some feel that the clones are as good or maybe even better than Singer original 15 machines. Some have had trouble with some of the newer 15 class bobbins working on original Singer 15 class machines, because the notch to fit on the bobbin winder isn't large enough. However, I haven't heard of that problem with the clones. I have a Sidewinder, so don't worry about not being able to wind a bobbin.

thank you ! I appreciate the quick response!

PTM 09-29-2023 09:14 AM

One other question - This machine works and is being offered for $90. Is that a reasonable price?

OurWorkbench 09-29-2023 09:36 AM

I would not pay that much for that machine. Recently, someone an hour from St. Louis could not sell or give away for postage several vintage machines in good working order. Fortunately found a good place to donate - International Sewing Machine Project.

PTM 09-29-2023 09:49 AM

Thanks, I appreciate your help.

flag2442 01-25-2024 03:45 PM

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I picked up this Riccar 15 clone at a thift store for $9. It was frozen and missing the motor and foot control. The tension spring is also damaged. I cannot seem to find any information on it. Its made in brazil. I got it to free up rather easily. Now in search of parts :)

flag2442 01-29-2024 09:07 PM

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New Alphasew .9, electronic foot control and tension spring. I also built this base for it. Sews perfect.

ppquilter 01-30-2024 01:46 AM

Just love all the different old machines!

pdelauro 08-31-2024 04:11 AM

Sewing Machine
 
I have a made in occupied Japan sewing machine mounted in a decorative sewing table (hide away). I can't seem to upload pictures here and have given up trying. "The BelAir Sewing Machine" with a plate number of 6514773 (I have no idea what it means). Can someone please tell me what this is and how to successfully upload photos to this post?

OurWorkbench 08-31-2024 05:30 AM

Welcome, pdelauro. Does your machine zigzag or straight stitch only? Have you seen the other threads about Japanese machines? https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...s-t207880.html AND https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage-antique-machine-enthusiasts-f22/vintage-japanese-badged-zig-zag-straight-sew-sewing-machines-t207877.html
I'm unsure as to what you mean when you ask "Can someone please tell me what this is " If you are asking about the number, it is a serial number, but not much help for Japanese machines. Although you would know that it was made sometime between 1945 and 1952, since it was made in occupied Japan.

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Looking forward to seeing pictures of your machine.



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