Gritzner treadle sewing machine
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Gritzner treadle sewing machine
My sewing machine has the Gritzner Patent - Durlach trademark (Spider). The serial Number is 598121. I am pretty sure it is a badged machine. It has La Silencieuse and Maurice Guigoz ,Monthey enscribed on the head and on the cast iron legs. Does anybody know the year it was made? Dixie
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It's not quite like Singer where you can just go to a compiled list, unfortunately. Many of us are attempting to gather info but for now, here are a couple good places to start. (Gotta love Google Search)
Also I few picture would really help.
http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/german%20sewing%20machines%202.htm
http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/Gritzner.pdf
http://www.sewalot.com/gritzner_sewing_machines.htm
http://fiddlebase.jimdo.com/german-machines/gritzner/
Also I few picture would really help.
http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/german%20sewing%20machines%202.htm
http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/Gritzner.pdf
http://www.sewalot.com/gritzner_sewing_machines.htm
http://fiddlebase.jimdo.com/german-machines/gritzner/
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I would love to see the pictures of your Gritzner treadle, Dixie, and your hand crank, mighty. I'd like to see how much they look like my hand crank.
Thanks Steve for the information on the Gritzner. I had seen most of them, but not the pdf one.
Janis
Thanks Steve for the information on the Gritzner. I had seen most of them, but not the pdf one.
Janis
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When I contacted John Langdon about my Gritzner, although he said he didn't know a lot about German sewing machines, he sent me this on dating mine:
"German machines were not well documented at all.
The most common way of dating them is spotting an advert that says "This
year we will have made a million machines!" - take the year the company
started away from the year of the million sales announcement. Then divide
a million by that number and you have a rough calculation of how many
machines they made per year. Not accurate, but a rough average.
With Gritzner (million sales in 1901), it worked out to 91,000 per year.
Take your serial number away from 1 million (the first serial # if there
are two), divide the remainder by 91,000 to give you a number of years;
then take those years away from 1901. It's all a little bit vague as some
people say Gritzner achieved its one million sales in 1902 - I don't know
off-hand.
Gritzner achieved two million sales in 1910, I think."
I hope this will help you in dating yours. I'm still not to sure about mine as where the serial number is, there is a 7 a little farther after the rest of the numbers ad down a little on the plate. Did either of you find this with yours? I'm wondering if that 7 is a model number or something like that rather than part of the serial number. Without it, mine is from 1891, and with it, 1898. Anyway, I have an ANTIQUE sewing machine along with my vintage ones!
Janis
"German machines were not well documented at all.
The most common way of dating them is spotting an advert that says "This
year we will have made a million machines!" - take the year the company
started away from the year of the million sales announcement. Then divide
a million by that number and you have a rough calculation of how many
machines they made per year. Not accurate, but a rough average.
With Gritzner (million sales in 1901), it worked out to 91,000 per year.
Take your serial number away from 1 million (the first serial # if there
are two), divide the remainder by 91,000 to give you a number of years;
then take those years away from 1901. It's all a little bit vague as some
people say Gritzner achieved its one million sales in 1902 - I don't know
off-hand.
Gritzner achieved two million sales in 1910, I think."
I hope this will help you in dating yours. I'm still not to sure about mine as where the serial number is, there is a 7 a little farther after the rest of the numbers ad down a little on the plate. Did either of you find this with yours? I'm wondering if that 7 is a model number or something like that rather than part of the serial number. Without it, mine is from 1891, and with it, 1898. Anyway, I have an ANTIQUE sewing machine along with my vintage ones!
Janis
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Me either, Dixie. My smart phone is smarter than I am. Do you have access to a handy grand child or neighbor child? THEY will know how to transfer the pics to your computer, LOL. If not I will call my grandson and get some info for both of us. I do know that the best resolution for posting pics to the QB is 640X480 pixels.
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I look forward to seeing the pictures. My daughter had her son, 8, looking on the net for information on her smart phone, or what ever she has, so he could teach her what to do! The kids know it all concerning computers!!
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