27 or 28 or ???
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27 or 28 or ???
I am looking at a Singer machine that is either a 27 or a 28 or a ????, I do not know how to tell the difference.
The serial # is B1244748.
Now there is web sites that will tell you when this # was made and I have that.
There is also a site that will give you the date that series was allocated and the number of machines in that allocation. I have asked for that link several times from several people and still don't have it.
And I'm sure there is a page somewhere that will tell what model that machine is by the number. I don't have that either.
I know these pages are there, but try as I might I've been unable to find them.
Can somebody please post direct links to these pages? I would really appreciate it.
Oh and here the link to the auction I'm watching, what model is this?
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions...e-9471201.html
Thanks,
Joe
The serial # is B1244748.
Now there is web sites that will tell you when this # was made and I have that.
There is also a site that will give you the date that series was allocated and the number of machines in that allocation. I have asked for that link several times from several people and still don't have it.
And I'm sure there is a page somewhere that will tell what model that machine is by the number. I don't have that either.
I know these pages are there, but try as I might I've been unable to find them.
Can somebody please post direct links to these pages? I would really appreciate it.
Oh and here the link to the auction I'm watching, what model is this?
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions...e-9471201.html
Thanks,
Joe
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It's a 27, commissioned on August 1, 1905.
http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_...-database.html
The high bobbin winder would in most cases, indicate a 127, but this one has been moved/replaced...you can see the mount for the lower winder if you enlarge the pics. The auction machine is actually a 27.
http://www.ismacs.net/singer_sewing_...-database.html
The high bobbin winder would in most cases, indicate a 127, but this one has been moved/replaced...you can see the mount for the lower winder if you enlarge the pics. The auction machine is actually a 27.
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Charlee,
I think I just found a discrepancy in the serial number date chart you gave me.
Singer 66 Red Eye Treadle, serial # AA 069244 (double checked and verified)
When I look that number up on the AA page I get this:
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]AA- [/TD]
[TD] 80201
[/TD]
[TD] / 115200
[/TD]
[TD] / 15
[/TD]
[TD] / 35000
[/TD]
[TD] / October 15
[/TD]
[TD] / 1924
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
The chart shows this number allotted to the Mdl 15.
Now above that several lines is this line: [TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]AA-
[/TD]
[TD] 40701 /
[/TD]
[TD] 75700 [/TD]
[TD] / 66 /
[/TD]
[TD] 35000
[/TD]
[TD] / September 23
[/TD]
[TD] / 1924
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
If I drop the 0 off the front of my serial number then it would be a 66.
Am I blind, cross eyed, reading it wrong or did they make an error?
I'm doing all my old Singers and so far they've all been right on except this one.
Joe
I think I just found a discrepancy in the serial number date chart you gave me.
Singer 66 Red Eye Treadle, serial # AA 069244 (double checked and verified)
When I look that number up on the AA page I get this:
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]AA- [/TD]
[TD] 80201
[/TD]
[TD] / 115200
[/TD]
[TD] / 15
[/TD]
[TD] / 35000
[/TD]
[TD] / October 15
[/TD]
[TD] / 1924
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
The chart shows this number allotted to the Mdl 15.
Now above that several lines is this line: [TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]AA-
[/TD]
[TD] 40701 /
[/TD]
[TD] 75700 [/TD]
[TD] / 66 /
[/TD]
[TD] 35000
[/TD]
[TD] / September 23
[/TD]
[TD] / 1924
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
If I drop the 0 off the front of my serial number then it would be a 66.
Am I blind, cross eyed, reading it wrong or did they make an error?
I'm doing all my old Singers and so far they've all been right on except this one.
Joe
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88021? I typed 80021 ... really, I just looked again for the 4 th time
OK, that makes sense I guess. I sometimes take serial numbers literally. If there's a digit on the item I want to see a digit on the chart. Personality flaw I guess.
So this follows through with the 99K machines too I'll bet. Back to the charts.
Joe
OK, that makes sense I guess. I sometimes take serial numbers literally. If there's a digit on the item I want to see a digit on the chart. Personality flaw I guess.
So this follows through with the 99K machines too I'll bet. Back to the charts.
Joe
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