mtboze

I just got a 1929 Model 99, with bentwood case and knee controller. I'm having difficulty figuring out what the attachment hardware in the lid is for, and how the knee controller arm is supposed to be stored there.

It seems likely that largest piece of hardware is for a box that would hold sewing attachments, but it doesn't fit either of the two boxes I have. I thought at first that it might have been to hold a foot pedal, but then remembered that this machine was knee-controlled.

Another piece looked like it might hold a short, oblong oil can, but the green can I have is much too large.

The last and smallest fitting seems like it should hold an end of the knee lever, but neither end will fit in it, and I can't see any obvious orientation of the lever that would allow it to be attached inside the lid.

There are no other holes inside the case lid where other fitting might have been attached at one time, except for a couple inside a shallow, round indention on one end of the case, partially covered by the largest attachment fitting.

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mtboze

I guess I should mention that I'm aware of the damage to the lid where the handle attaches, and I have seen photos of some sort of handle hardware, for a 201 I believe, that included something for holding a knee lever, but there no signs I can see of the lever ever having been mounted anywhere inside the lid, such as scratches etc.

Mickey2

The squarish clip is for a green cardboard accessory box (old type), solid green color with red writing, at least mine are. A bit into the 50s they changed the size (I think they are white, red and green). There were metal tins too, but I don't think they ever fitted in the clip. The end of the knee lever goes in the smallest metal bit in the top , mine has some sort of additional latch securing the lever in place.

OurWorkbench

I was hoping Mickey2 would chime in. Owners of 99k + bentwood case It looks like there has been some refinishing on one side of the handle which might indicate someone didn't know how to attach the knee bar and just took it off. Maybe the previous owners never put the knee bar in the cover and just left it out all the time.

Actually, I think I have a couple different sizes of green boxes with red lettering. I think the number would be 160809 for the one that would fit the 99.

Yes the oil bracket would be for the short oval oil can.


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Mickey2

I have three green cardboard boxes, one for a 99K (1934) and it sais "Singer accessories for 99K machine" , one for my 201 (1950), and a rather random attachment box with no model numer, just the Singer name in red. The last one is slighly shorter, but fits the clip fine. My 99K and my 201 came with the old type user manual too, green booklet.

By 1955 the new box and manual were introduced, at least on m 201K23. This is the type that came with my 99K. I don't know if any of the metal tins fits the bent wood case, there is a green tin case too, but I think the early ones were carboard. The early 99 came in a black suit case type encasing too, and I guess it has different arrangment for the loose parts.

Aurora

I have one of those machines with the knee piece. To the best of my memory it fits in the lid on an angle. I will check when I get a chance to dig it out of the closet.

Macybaby

you do not have the hardware to hold the knee lever. there are two types, and one is part of the handle, the other is a couple of clips on the side.

It looks like the handle pulled out at one point and was repaired. It's very possible the original handle with the holder for the knee lever was damages or lost, and it was replaced by the much more common style without it.

It is also very possible that this lid did not originally go with that machine.

Macybaby

I found a pic of the one that mounts to the handle. The other has mounts on the side of the cabinet.

mtboze

Your photo of that mounting piece, along with the handle damage (and funky repair!) on my case lid, point to what I think is a pretty good answer to my question. So, now, on with the quest to find that part!

Mickey2

1928 is a tricky date, there is an early and a later version of the knee lever and I think the way it is stored in the lid. My 1934 99K has the later type knee lever. If it has knee lever base and electrical motor, I guess it should have all the fittings for the lid. Later on pedal became more common, but both options remained common a bit ino the 1950s, at least for bent wood models made in the UK factory.