Bel Air Imperial Sewing Machine - 1952
02-06-2012, 11:43 AM
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Bel Air Imperial Sewing Machine - 1952
Does anyone know about this machine? At first I thought it was a Class 15 clone - but the bobbin is horizontal (no case, just drops in). I found it at this small antique shop that is 5 minutes from my house (didn't even realize this place was there!). I had forgotten my phone, so couldn't snap pictures. It is a belted machine. I found this picture online, which is what the machine looks like (except it has a gold oval under the stitch size selector - which indicates it was made in Los Angeles. It was made in 1952.
Feet, set up, it looks like a singer. I found this picture online, which is what it looked (except it had the gold oval I mentioned above).
I am going to take another look after work.
TIA. :-)
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Feet, set up, it looks like a singer. I found this picture online, which is what it looked (except it had the gold oval I mentioned above).
I am going to take another look after work.
TIA. :-)
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02-06-2012, 05:08 PM
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Bel Air 600 - picture heavy
Well - went back and ended up buying her! It is actually a Bel Air 600 model. I think it is like a Singer 99. It is a belted machine. Actually the plate on it indicates it was made in occupied Japan - which intrigued me more than anything! It came with a bunch of feet, extra bobbins, and the original manual. It is in a cabinet, which I think will be very nice refinished.
She actually works, but will need a bit of work. The spool pin is missing. I think that if I intend to keep her electric, then I would definitely replace the power and foot pedal cords (and I would replace the light). And she will need a bit of cleaning up, some oil/grease - and I am sure someone to fine-tune her tension (probably replace the tension disk assembly).
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She actually works, but will need a bit of work. The spool pin is missing. I think that if I intend to keep her electric, then I would definitely replace the power and foot pedal cords (and I would replace the light). And she will need a bit of cleaning up, some oil/grease - and I am sure someone to fine-tune her tension (probably replace the tension disk assembly).
I have attached pictures.
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02-07-2012, 01:08 AM
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Is it 3/4 size? or full size? Belaire was branded machine - I've seen one like it called Wizard. The Belaire name and Wizard name also were used in Japanese 15 or clones of all body styles. This is not a 15 clone - looks more like a Singer 66 unless it is 3/4 size. But then the 66 is just like the 99 only bigger. Looks like a gentle cleaning will get that one up and running - be a great machine.
02-07-2012, 05:08 AM
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Oh thank you for the encouragement! It was a total impulse buy. I got home and did some gentle scrubbing on the face plate and the round circular plate where the light attaches (very light rust or maybe just oxidation...lots of little dots - but they clean off with a little elbow grease and baking soda - love baking soda and vinegar for various cleaning jobs!). And then I stood back looking at it wondering - what do I do with it now?!!! And felt overwhelmed and again wondered - why again did I buy this?
I did a quick measurement of the bed (it is down in the cabinet right now). About 8 to 8.5 inches. So am now thinking a 66 clone?
I managed to snap off the bobbin cover. :-( It was hinged, was just fine - until I forgot to close it when I decided to put the machine back down in the cabinet. Can I replace that? I can't even tell how it was hinged on.
Today - I decided that I will pull Bennett's cleaning tutorial (thank you Bennett!). But I do have a quick question. I see many posts that mention soaking pieces in an oil bath. What kind of oil? I can see some rust or corrosion on the bobbin winder (though the bobbin tire looks relatively new, as does the belt). I also want to disassemble the tension disk thing at some point (will take a picture of every step so I can get it back together). I think I will just study these various video/picture tutorials on cleaning this up. And keep reminding myself - if you ladies can do this - surely I can learn to do this! I'll also remember I am not in a race - so can take my time so I don't get too overwhelmed.
At this same shop another machine caught my eye. It is a British Sewing Machine, hand crank. Actually in nice shape (should have snapped some pictures). Missing one of the bobbin slide plates (has the plates like a 27/127 - those rectangular ones). It is a vibrating shuttle machine - and it has the shuttle in it and a bobbin (very shiny shuttle - like a silver bullet!). I have already decided that I don't know that I want to sew on a hand crank (I actually want to use all the machines I buy
). But she is so pretty and I like the sound she made when I turned the crank. $39 for her. I'll probably check back periodically and see if she is still there. Oh, she is still in a base, that is in pretty good condition as compared to most bases I see with a Bentwood (or coffin??) top. That rounded wood top that is in the shape of a mailbox. That was in excellent condition. And I am thinking - this is madness - I have to stop looking! I cannot house this many sewing machines!! But you know, if I offered $20 or $25 for her and they said yes - she'd probably come home with me. At least I could hide her in my closet until I get my husband on board with collecting vsm's!
I did a quick measurement of the bed (it is down in the cabinet right now). About 8 to 8.5 inches. So am now thinking a 66 clone?
I managed to snap off the bobbin cover. :-( It was hinged, was just fine - until I forgot to close it when I decided to put the machine back down in the cabinet. Can I replace that? I can't even tell how it was hinged on.
Today - I decided that I will pull Bennett's cleaning tutorial (thank you Bennett!). But I do have a quick question. I see many posts that mention soaking pieces in an oil bath. What kind of oil? I can see some rust or corrosion on the bobbin winder (though the bobbin tire looks relatively new, as does the belt). I also want to disassemble the tension disk thing at some point (will take a picture of every step so I can get it back together). I think I will just study these various video/picture tutorials on cleaning this up. And keep reminding myself - if you ladies can do this - surely I can learn to do this! I'll also remember I am not in a race - so can take my time so I don't get too overwhelmed.
At this same shop another machine caught my eye. It is a British Sewing Machine, hand crank. Actually in nice shape (should have snapped some pictures). Missing one of the bobbin slide plates (has the plates like a 27/127 - those rectangular ones). It is a vibrating shuttle machine - and it has the shuttle in it and a bobbin (very shiny shuttle - like a silver bullet!). I have already decided that I don't know that I want to sew on a hand crank (I actually want to use all the machines I buy
). But she is so pretty and I like the sound she made when I turned the crank. $39 for her. I'll probably check back periodically and see if she is still there. Oh, she is still in a base, that is in pretty good condition as compared to most bases I see with a Bentwood (or coffin??) top. That rounded wood top that is in the shape of a mailbox. That was in excellent condition. And I am thinking - this is madness - I have to stop looking! I cannot house this many sewing machines!! But you know, if I offered $20 or $25 for her and they said yes - she'd probably come home with me. At least I could hide her in my closet until I get my husband on board with collecting vsm's!
02-07-2012, 05:48 AM
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"Today - I decided that I will pull Bennett's cleaning tutorial (thank you Bennett!). But I do have a quick question. I see many posts that mention soaking pieces in an oil bath. What kind of oil? I can see some rust or corrosion on the bobbin winder (though the bobbin tire looks relatively new, as does the belt). I also want to disassemble the tension disk thing at some point (will take a picture of every step so I can get it back together). I think I will just study these various video/picture tutorials on cleaning this up. And keep reminding myself - if you ladies can do this - surely I can learn to do this! I'll also remember I am not in a race - so can take my time so I don't get too overwhelmed."
You are right this is not a contest or a race. We will answer any questions you might have.
Yes there is a post on here about soaking your machine in kerosene - I highly doubt if they do that at a shop. I think maybe you need to dis-assemble a machine if you want to pay someone to repaint it, then re-assemble it for you. Most machines just do NOT need that much to make them work again. Removing too much oil patina will loose the protective coat and could cause it to rust. Some dried on oil is ok. Dried on oil in the moving parts is not ok. It is pretty easy to fix though. There is plenty of good information on QB other wise. Here's one I cleaned up minimally. It went from frozen to working without harsh chemicals. http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...r-t169127.html My helper was pregnant so we just oiled it with Triflow. I think heat and regular sewing machine oil would do the same.
You are right this is not a contest or a race. We will answer any questions you might have.
Yes there is a post on here about soaking your machine in kerosene - I highly doubt if they do that at a shop. I think maybe you need to dis-assemble a machine if you want to pay someone to repaint it, then re-assemble it for you. Most machines just do NOT need that much to make them work again. Removing too much oil patina will loose the protective coat and could cause it to rust. Some dried on oil is ok. Dried on oil in the moving parts is not ok. It is pretty easy to fix though. There is plenty of good information on QB other wise. Here's one I cleaned up minimally. It went from frozen to working without harsh chemicals. http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...r-t169127.html My helper was pregnant so we just oiled it with Triflow. I think heat and regular sewing machine oil would do the same.
02-07-2012, 06:10 AM
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I have a Bel Air also that was made in Occupied Japan. I do not believe mine has the Los Angeles badge part but I could also be mistaken. She sews beautifully and cleaned up nicely. Someone on the VSMS thought she might be a White clone because of the tension assembly placement and the bobbin is horizontal and not vertical like a Singer 15. I will post pics if I can find one.
FYI: I'll post pics later when I get home from work. I appear not to have any on this computer.
FYI: I'll post pics later when I get home from work. I appear not to have any on this computer.
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02-07-2012, 06:49 AM
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Being made in Occupied Japan should make it worth more than ones not made then. I have a boy and girl statues made in Occupied Japen and they were worth 45.00 years ago, probably sold for 1.00 or less at the time.
Your machine looks great and I would not be sorry for buying it.
Your machine looks great and I would not be sorry for buying it.
02-07-2012, 07:10 AM
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Oh Miriam - love that turquoise-blue!!! So pretty!
Chris - would love to see pictures of yours.
I am relieved to think it might not be such a task to clean up. I am thinking - I can do this! I can get the parts I need from Sew Classic - love that site!! Really, the machine seems to be in pretty good shape, feeling a bit more excited today about taking apart sections to clean. Will be buying some kerosene!!
Jingle - sadly, it doesn't seem to be the case that this machine would be worth more due to the Occupied in Japan label. I found this interesting little blog yesterday (it is very hard to find info on these machines!!). http://sewing-machines.blogspot.com/...s-and-60s.html
If what this gentleman says is true, there isn't much interest in these machines. There seem to be a lot of "orphans" out there with very little info. While I have the original manual to this machine (it is falling apart, so I am going to scan it into a PDF and then I think laminate the pages) - it is a very generic manual. It does not even reference how to thread the machine!!! But I am thinking that is because it is basically a Singer clone - and those instructions are easy enough to find. But I thought it was very cool with that stamped on the plate on the front!!
Chris - would love to see pictures of yours.
I am relieved to think it might not be such a task to clean up. I am thinking - I can do this! I can get the parts I need from Sew Classic - love that site!! Really, the machine seems to be in pretty good shape, feeling a bit more excited today about taking apart sections to clean. Will be buying some kerosene!!
Jingle - sadly, it doesn't seem to be the case that this machine would be worth more due to the Occupied in Japan label. I found this interesting little blog yesterday (it is very hard to find info on these machines!!). http://sewing-machines.blogspot.com/...s-and-60s.html
If what this gentleman says is true, there isn't much interest in these machines. There seem to be a lot of "orphans" out there with very little info. While I have the original manual to this machine (it is falling apart, so I am going to scan it into a PDF and then I think laminate the pages) - it is a very generic manual. It does not even reference how to thread the machine!!! But I am thinking that is because it is basically a Singer clone - and those instructions are easy enough to find. But I thought it was very cool with that stamped on the plate on the front!!
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