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Heehee! I paid more than that today for some goodies and have my eye on something else that will def. be more than 25.00. They don't ALL come cheap, not even the beasties that need work!
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Well, thanks for the heads up....I guess, from your response I really got rooked when I bought this way back then and paid $200.00 for it.....I will just oil it again this year, polish the beautiful woodcarved drawers and put my collection of music boxes on top. Fortunately, when we do have power outages they last less than an hour.....and if they were long lasting, I have enough other things to do rather than sit in a dark place peddling. I learned to sew on my moms that way........
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if you have been happy with your purchase, don't let opinions on value here change that.
The only thing that determines real value is what the seller is willing to sell for and what the buyer is willing to pay.
filling our homes with things because they were cheap or free is not good stewardship of our time space and life.
The only thing that determines real value is what the seller is willing to sell for and what the buyer is willing to pay.
filling our homes with things because they were cheap or free is not good stewardship of our time space and life.
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you may well have gotten a very good deal on it, you haven't posted a photo.
10 yrs ago sites as C/L where just becoming known and used. In 1969 a singer plain jane In nice working condition was worth $125, today the same set up is worth the same. Go up to a machine with nice wood appliques ( carvings ) the value might go up.
problem with resale is your computation ( C/L adds ) take my area with in a 150 miles area, every day there will be 20 / 30 adds listed. 10 + will be treadles ranging from 20$ to 500$.
You paid $200 for yours. I can buy a $20 machine + $40 for gas + $40 materials to refinish. and end up with a $500 machine ( in my dreams) O did I say add in 400 hrs worth of labor. Now the final finish on the wood add another $75 in material.
now that $20 machine just cost me $175 out of pocket ( your time is worth not a penny)
If I listed those machine refinish in this manner on c/L at $175. I doubt very much they would ever sell. You have to know if a buyer did look they would hit you for a $125 sale and want the roll of thread with the deal.
so I just lost $55 and at the $175 was giving it away.
Thats the reality behind the $25 machine.
10 yrs ago sites as C/L where just becoming known and used. In 1969 a singer plain jane In nice working condition was worth $125, today the same set up is worth the same. Go up to a machine with nice wood appliques ( carvings ) the value might go up.
problem with resale is your computation ( C/L adds ) take my area with in a 150 miles area, every day there will be 20 / 30 adds listed. 10 + will be treadles ranging from 20$ to 500$.
You paid $200 for yours. I can buy a $20 machine + $40 for gas + $40 materials to refinish. and end up with a $500 machine ( in my dreams) O did I say add in 400 hrs worth of labor. Now the final finish on the wood add another $75 in material.
now that $20 machine just cost me $175 out of pocket ( your time is worth not a penny)
If I listed those machine refinish in this manner on c/L at $175. I doubt very much they would ever sell. You have to know if a buyer did look they would hit you for a $125 sale and want the roll of thread with the deal.
so I just lost $55 and at the $175 was giving it away.
Thats the reality behind the $25 machine.
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you may well have gotten a very good deal on it, you haven't posted a photo.
10 yrs ago sites as C/L where just becoming known and used. In 1969 a singer plain jane In nice working condition was worth $125, today the same set up is worth the same. Go up to a machine with nice wood appliques ( carvings ) the value might go up.
problem with resale is your computation ( C/L adds ) take my area with in a 150 miles area, every day there will be 20 / 30 adds listed. 10 + will be treadles ranging from 20$ to 500$.
You paid $200 for yours. I can buy a $20 machine + $40 for gas + $40 materials to refinish. and end up with a $500 machine ( in my dreams) O did I say add in 400 hrs worth of labor. Now the final finish on the wood add another $75 in material.
now that $20 machine just cost me $175 out of pocket ( your time is worth not a penny)
If I listed those machine refinish in this manner on c/L at $175. I doubt very much they would ever sell. You have to know if a buyer did look they would hit you for a $125 sale and want the roll of thread with the deal.
so I just lost $55 and at the $175 was giving it away.
Thats the reality behind the $25 machine.
10 yrs ago sites as C/L where just becoming known and used. In 1969 a singer plain jane In nice working condition was worth $125, today the same set up is worth the same. Go up to a machine with nice wood appliques ( carvings ) the value might go up.
problem with resale is your computation ( C/L adds ) take my area with in a 150 miles area, every day there will be 20 / 30 adds listed. 10 + will be treadles ranging from 20$ to 500$.
You paid $200 for yours. I can buy a $20 machine + $40 for gas + $40 materials to refinish. and end up with a $500 machine ( in my dreams) O did I say add in 400 hrs worth of labor. Now the final finish on the wood add another $75 in material.
now that $20 machine just cost me $175 out of pocket ( your time is worth not a penny)
If I listed those machine refinish in this manner on c/L at $175. I doubt very much they would ever sell. You have to know if a buyer did look they would hit you for a $125 sale and want the roll of thread with the deal.
so I just lost $55 and at the $175 was giving it away.
Thats the reality behind the $25 machine.
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To xxxxxxx....so if your logic is accurate....why then do all of you here buy , clean up, spit and polish, the machines you travel to buy and accumulate....just to say you have them? Is it an obsession....? I'm curious, not critical......I have several " collections". Namely, paperweights, pin cushions, China cup/saucers, depression glass....and a few more, but theses are small, in curio cabinets, and I can and do resell easily. But you are saying old s/m are sellable only to others in that genre and only at "cheap".......again just trying to get things into perspective here. But, I guess you may be right about no one wanting to "buy" old at antique prices......I have a FW that is languishing, because I don't want and neither does anyone else, unless I "give it away".........
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.I have several " collections". Namely, paperweights, pin cushions, China cup/saucers, depression glass.
You may think these would sell now, try it sometime. you'll sell some yes. lucky if it's as much as 5% of what you have.
I have a collection of cat figurines , I know every well there is a good $10.000 invested there , it's not worth a dime. sure a figurine I paid $54 for would sell, but at 2/3$ even with it's original box and certificates
you'll find 90% of those collecting are retired, so we are old very old. It's the cool factor, 40 years ago we were broke and cool, now there some money and we are still cool, so the junk we like way back when, is still junk today and we can buy it.
ever say I always wanted one of those , Butt !!!! ............. well now we can have it and still say BUTTTTTTTTTTTT when I die it's value will be $20 less than I paid
all these things you mention , time after time you see that boxed and goes to the dump or G/W. then......... ones like myself and this Fred I talk about he and myself have houses that are locked up, those houses are still full of this every type items that belonged to a love one. never to be sold or dumped.
You may think these would sell now, try it sometime. you'll sell some yes. lucky if it's as much as 5% of what you have.
I have a collection of cat figurines , I know every well there is a good $10.000 invested there , it's not worth a dime. sure a figurine I paid $54 for would sell, but at 2/3$ even with it's original box and certificates
you'll find 90% of those collecting are retired, so we are old very old. It's the cool factor, 40 years ago we were broke and cool, now there some money and we are still cool, so the junk we like way back when, is still junk today and we can buy it.
ever say I always wanted one of those , Butt !!!! ............. well now we can have it and still say BUTTTTTTTTTTTT when I die it's value will be $20 less than I paid
all these things you mention , time after time you see that boxed and goes to the dump or G/W. then......... ones like myself and this Fred I talk about he and myself have houses that are locked up, those houses are still full of this every type items that belonged to a love one. never to be sold or dumped.
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To xxxxxxx....so if your logic is accurate....why then do all of you here buy , clean up, spit and polish, the machines you travel to buy and accumulate....just to say you have them? Is it an obsession....? I'm curious, not critical......I have several " collections". Namely, paperweights, pin cushions, China cup/saucers, depression glass....and a few more, but theses are small, in curio cabinets, and I can and do resell easily. But you are saying old s/m are sellable only to others in that genre and only at "cheap".......again just trying to get things into perspective here. But, I guess you may be right about no one wanting to "buy" old at antique prices......I have a FW that is languishing, because I don't want and neither does anyone else, unless I "give it away".........
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an other of what happen to me via old machine, American History, world history, ancient history egyption times. so educational value, other than sew machine history via having these old ones.
I live in O&C lands = oregon Calif rail roads lands, abandoned RxR tunnels ( caves) huge adandoned road in the mountains never finished, a life time of wonder what took place, In school years and people living here now, It was because of a race to see which RxR co. could get a RxR to the coast first, this one lost .
totaly untrue , a cover up. to keep those living from knowing what really took place, keeping a secret as to why the huge landowner have that land now in todays world and back then.
Egyptian graphics on these machines. ever really look at those ? Aaaaaaaaaa the colors used that are very faded. what about the lotus ( I paid a 100 for a unused lotus) why ? it's not very pretty, in fact very plain looking, doesn't even really look like a lotus flower. What is a lotus ? why use a sticker bush ? what did a lotus represent, This is still unanswered. The are lotus flowers on the wall in Egyptian tombs , also used in ancient China (Hmmmmmmmmmm )
why did ol Ike singer travel the world via a Boat ride, and set up manufacturing in country's that hadn't even seen a metal nail. to sell singer MOP fiddle beds to people living in grass huts ?
what was and what is singers other hobby
I live in O&C lands = oregon Calif rail roads lands, abandoned RxR tunnels ( caves) huge adandoned road in the mountains never finished, a life time of wonder what took place, In school years and people living here now, It was because of a race to see which RxR co. could get a RxR to the coast first, this one lost .
totaly untrue , a cover up. to keep those living from knowing what really took place, keeping a secret as to why the huge landowner have that land now in todays world and back then.
Egyptian graphics on these machines. ever really look at those ? Aaaaaaaaaa the colors used that are very faded. what about the lotus ( I paid a 100 for a unused lotus) why ? it's not very pretty, in fact very plain looking, doesn't even really look like a lotus flower. What is a lotus ? why use a sticker bush ? what did a lotus represent, This is still unanswered. The are lotus flowers on the wall in Egyptian tombs , also used in ancient China (Hmmmmmmmmmm )
why did ol Ike singer travel the world via a Boat ride, and set up manufacturing in country's that hadn't even seen a metal nail. to sell singer MOP fiddle beds to people living in grass huts ?
what was and what is singers other hobby
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