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http://medford.craigslist.org/for/4863854853.html again look at this

I never see anyone bring this up. they always go by the decals to ID these

In this add I really can't make out the decal in detail BUTT

All I have to see is the big round hole in the belly pan .. Bingo ,, it's a knock off singer

any time I have to rebuild the belly pan I add that hole

Rodney

I check the badge and the feed dog drop knob. Old Singer 15s didn't have the knob or a red S on the badge. The only Singer machines the hole would be useful on are 15s and 115s. The rest of them have the bobbin loaded from the top.
At least they're not saying Antique in the ad.
Rodney

manicmike

Not really a knock off, just an amalgam of old and new: The base is antique, the drawers and top are modern, the head is modern. The head says "Singer Sewing Machine Company" which is a dead giveaway that it's new.
The legs say "The Singer Manfg. Co." and have the long bobbin trademark, so they're original.

The machine was probably sold as a brand new repro machine and someone has put it onto antique legs.

I've seen original cast iron bases go for almost $100 by themselves (for people to make into a table), so it's not a bad price if you don't mind Chinese reproductions.

elnan

Rebuild the belly pan - now I'm really interested. If I understand right, the curved wooden skirt is the belly pan.?. I never knew that part had a name. How do you rebuild that, and why do you cut the holes?

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the rebuilding is on the old ones,
often either there broken or missing it's called a belly pan . drip pan and also holds the center drawer

The hole is to access the bobbin, the imports from Asia had these, Pfaff uses this so did necchi,, singers never had that hole.. when singer went to ele cabinets you could access the bobbin from underneath

Mike is correct about that stand. the machine and cabinets is knockoff. I can only guess by the huge cap between the center piece ( drawer) and the side drawers that this one came with wooden legs. which where wiggly someone replace those with a stand

The point was only ID ing what it is not the value . also note how big the hole is at teh belt, this was for the handwheel the pan is closer to the top than a OG cabinet

lindaschipper

Whatever it is....wish it were sitting in my home!!