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    Old 10-06-2015, 07:41 AM
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    details of the main mechanism

    from behind
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]532623[/ATTACH]

    from in front
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    Old 10-06-2015, 07:43 AM
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    I uploaded some LARGE videos to my webserver

    We used an old treadle belt with the machine tilted back 90 deg to vertical. Heather pulled the belt slowly while I filmed.

    Topside video
    http://www.crimsonforge.com/victoria...ide%20view.mp4

    Underside from behind mechanism
    http://www.crimsonforge.com/victoria...ear%20view.mp4

    Underside from in front of mechanism
    http://www.crimsonforge.com/victoria...ont%20view.mp4
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    Old 10-08-2015, 05:38 PM
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    Steve, what an elegant machine! What is the handle-like part sticking out to the right side?

    Dianne in Colorado
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    Old 10-09-2015, 07:33 AM
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    that is the upper tension

    Here is the upper thread path
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    and the lower path
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    Old 10-09-2015, 10:09 AM
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    Thank you, Steve. That thread path is very strange - going away from the needle to start with and then the long run to the left - unique! The W&G threading doubles back on itself, but even then doesn't go to the right of the spool. Fascinating.

    My computer wouldn't play your videos, which probably showed this clearly. This 12-year-old Mac also has decided not to access PayPal and other accounts.....so it is finally time for a new one. I'm looking forward to seeing this machine in motion.

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    Old 10-20-2015, 08:04 AM
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    final update:

    Though folks would like to see this machine all cleaned up.
    NOTE: I did not do the clean and restore on this one. This was done by a professional.

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]533722[/ATTACH]

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    Stunning......absolutely gorgeous!
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    Old 10-21-2015, 02:15 AM
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    Originally Posted by SteveH
    final update:

    Though folks would like to see this machine all cleaned up.
    NOTE: I did not do the clean and restore on this one. This was done by a professional.
    What???!!! you didn't. I consider you to be "THE professional" when it comes to cleaning and restoring these fantastic old machines. I'm guessing that you decided to have the "painted over" areas stripped and re-plated? What was done to the original finish to make it look so good? Did you get needle & clamp? It looks like it. Have you sewn with it?

    Ditto what Dianne said (Stunning......absolutely gorgeous!) many more adjectives as well. Amazing, Fantastic, Beautiful, Super etc. etc. So glad that you were able to be the one to get it and preserve it in all its glory (and appreciate it for its original purpose). Thank you for sharing with us not only these wonderful machines but knowing and answering questions about how they work.

    Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.
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    Old 10-21-2015, 08:11 AM
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    LOL, Thanks. No I am a "dedicated hobbyist", this guy is a full time professional.

    So a little history about these machines (as I recall the conversation).
    The Franklin company started making these in 1867 and got sued immediately by multiple makers for patent infringement. Franklin lost. So production and shipping of this machine was stopped. In late 1868 they introduced a new "diamond" model that had all of the necessary patent declarations to be legal. it was not a hit anyway and they closed in 1869ish

    This is one of the early ones that has NO patent info anywhere on it.

    This machine is going to the same museum that my MOP Grover and Baker went to. They have a brick and mortar museum and the proper environment to preserve this exceptionally rare machine. Less than two dozen known to exist)

    But if it makes folks feel better, it funded the acquisition of these two....

    My #1 most wanted machine (actually a clone of the machine I was hunting for (Singer 46k1)) This specific machine was made in the late 1800's by/for James Moffat of Yeovil England. (a center of Glovemaking "for centuries") This machine was designed to sew ladies gloves

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]533785[/ATTACH]

    and one of the ultimate prizes for a collector, a Singer Letter A treadle. The Letter A was the 3rd model of sewing machine made by Singer and his first truly successful sewing machine made.

    I just love this photo at ISMACS of a woman in 1911 with her Letter A that she bought in 1860- http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach..._letter_a.html

    This ones serial number is 137632 The ISMACS database and the Singer online database do not go this far back.... It was made in 1865

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    Old 10-21-2015, 09:10 AM
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    Originally Posted by SteveH
    This is one of the early ones that has NO patent info anywhere on it.

    This machine is going to the same museum that my MOP Grover and Baker went to. They have a brick and mortar museum and the proper environment to preserve this exceptionally rare machine. Less than two dozen known to exist)
    On the one hand, proud to have been a part of the Franklin's journey. On the other hand, ohcrapohcraohcrap, it was in the back of my car and in my garage and I fiddled with it! So glad I didn't break anything.

    The restoration guy did a fantastic job. It is almost unrecognizable. And Shiny.

    Have a good time with the new machines!
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