Originally Posted by BoJangles
(Post 5063053)
Ok everyone, the first thing I did was try and find the end of the needle. Never did find it, I think it must be in the carpet under the machine because it is not in the bobbin assembly anywhere. I couldn't understand why nothing moved when I took that little finger thingy off and put in back on the bobbin assemby. I finally had to take the bobbin assembly completely off the machine - a thing I never had to do before - and get tangled up thread out from between the hook/race or whatever it is that moves around the bobbin case. Nothing moved, which puzzled me because I know the 319 is a full rotary so it should have been going around in a full circle? Anyway, after removing more thread, I got the two units moving separately, but now the timing on the bobbin assembly is all wrong. Since I have never had to take the whole assembly off and put it back on before, I am having trouble getting the timing right so the needle actually clears the assembly! Any hints?
Nancy But, you can rotate the assembly and adjust the screws and eventually you will get it! |
Originally Posted by buslady
(Post 5063004)
Whoo! Good! The sign of a really great vacation. Spent 3 days with DGS, and coming home with a new to me machine, Davis, beautiful cabinet, some attachments, and a booklet. Can't wait to get her home and check her out. I'm pretty sure she's a vertical feed.
Congratulations!! Can't wait to see pics...I have a Davis VF, and it's so fun. Can't wait to get it into a treadle base....if DH EVER gets to it!!! (grrrr!) |
Originally Posted by Candace
(Post 5063239)
Yay, you get to retime the machine. Fun! :< The little finger is going to take some playing with after you retime it. It's taken me several hours to time the 319's with the finger etc. and to get it just right that it doesn't skip stitches while doing the embroidery designs. And the finger will make a lot of noise if you don't have it adjusted just right. If you google how to time a sewing machine you can see where the hook and needle need to be. Hopefully that will help you. You aren't going to break or damage anything by playing with it and seeing if you can do it yourself. Maybe Cathy will have a site she can refer you to or a site with step by step photos. I don't know of one off hand.
But, you can rotate the assembly and adjust the screws and eventually you will get it! Candace, should the point be almost touching the needle? I wish I had a better picture. I will do some googling! I hadn't planned on doing this all day! I wanted to fiddle with my 31's! Nancy Candace I have been rotating the assemby and adjusting the screws all day long! I need a better photo of where the needle eye is when the point of the hook comes around. |
I had a teacher tell me once, "treasure your mistakes, they are pearls you learn by." Well, maybe one of these days I will treasure my mistake of letting little Marcus in my sewing room when I wasn't there! That is I might treasure my mistake because it forced me to learn how to time a machine! But why did he have to pick on my 319w? I guess, in the end it will be a good thing, because it forces me to dig a little deeper into these machines than I wanted to! Well, the jury is still out on this mistake - I STILL HAVE TO FIX THIS MACHINE!
Nancy Sorry everyone, I am venting here! Better than venting at DH, who is sick with the flu, which is forcing me to stay in anyway! I'd rather be happily sewing with the 319w than trying to fix it all day long! |
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I've been hanging out reading posts here, all the while shopping for a White. I was trolling the local antique shops, thrift stores, E-bay and Craig's List, and happened upon this little beauty. Her former owner was downsizing to a trailer from a house and had no room for her. Meet Francesca:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]320109[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]320110[/ATTACH] While her top is worn and her decals are a little silvered, she does have her manual and all the attachments, shuttle and 6 bobbins. So, not a bad deal for $80, I think. Now, can anyone offer advice on correct needles? There was an old package in one of the drawers - empty, and with no identifying information. :-( |
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Originally Posted by BoJangles
(Post 5063486)
I had a teacher tell me once, "treasure your mistakes, they are pearls you learn by." Well, maybe one of these days I will treasure my mistake of letting little Marcus in my sewing room when I wasn't there! That is I might treasure my mistake because it forced me to learn how to time a machine! But why did he have to pick on my 319w? I guess, in the end it will be a good thing, because it forces me to dig a little deeper into these machines than I wanted to! Well, the jury is still out on this mistake - I STILL HAVE TO FIX THIS MACHINE!
Nancy Sorry everyone, I am venting here! Better than venting at DH, who is sick with the flu, which is forcing me to stay in anyway! I'd rather be happily sewing with the 319w than trying to fix it all day long! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE2um...eature=related utube video on timing - there are more just search sewing machine timing - utube Cathy wrote some timing instructions recently it can be hard to find so I copied her words here: This is window #31859 and #31861 "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine" The needlebar movement is usually measured at the bushing just where the bar enters and exits the head. The best way is with a gauge until experience allows you to eyeball it. Many Singers (ie 401, 500 and others of that era) and sometimes other brands have two timing marks (score lines) on the needlebar. On these you lower the needlebar to it’s lowest point (DBC) the upper timing mark will just be at the bottom of the bushing. Then raise the needlebar until the lower timing mark is in the position that the upper mark was at before moving. This movement was .093”. You said that the machine is stitching with its new needle. Leave it, after all this is your goal. The .093” measurement is an old industry standard. The factory and techs in the field learn that you sometimes have to fudge this due to casting and machining variances. Use the .093” as a starting point. The Japanese 15 machines with the bobbincasse/ hook facing the left usually have the timing pin set. If this has been changed it is very evident. The pin will have been punched or drilled out and the hole threaded for the set screw and usually another hole will be drilled and tapped for the second set screw.. So unless there is a set screw or two at the timing point, I doubt that the timing has changed. It probably has always been just barely off of the standard .093”. Hope I helped. Cathy I can tell you I spent a month trying to figure out how to do what you are doing once - I didn't know you could find info on the internet. I would work at it awhile get frustrated and quit - go back and fiddle with it awhile and one day I took the whole mess apart and put it back together and for what ever reason it ran. You want to make sure the screws are VERY tight when you get it right - ask me how I know that. |
Originally Posted by PrincessPolkadot
(Post 5063580)
I've been hanging out reading posts here, all the while shopping for a White. I was trolling the local antique shops, thrift stores, E-bay and Craig's List, and happened upon this little beauty. Her former owner was downsizing to a trailer from a house and had no room for her. Meet Francesca:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]320109[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]320110[/ATTACH] While her top is worn and her decals are a little silvered, she does have her manual and all the attachments, shuttle and 6 bobbins. So, not a bad deal for $80, I think. Now, can anyone offer advice on correct needles? There was an old package in one of the drawers - empty, and with no identifying information. :-( Nancy |
Nancy,
I'm sorry to hear about your 319W. I kinda understand about timing sewing machines. It's too late now, but here is something I learned from working on cars and trucks. When you have to take something apart that has critical timing, put witness marks on everything. A small mark on opposing pieces will help you get it back together the same way it came apart. Works on distributors, should work on bobbin hooks. One more thing; when I was first married my wife had her two boys from the first marriage. To prevent unwanted trouble I put a lock on our bedroom door. Kept them out of trouble more times than not. When grand son comes to visit, lock the sewing room door. .................................................. .................................... PrincessPolkadot, Welcome to the forum. That's a nice machine. Some cleaning and TLC and I'll be she purrs like a kitten. I can't help with the needles though. Joe |
Originally Posted by J Miller
(Post 5063652)
Nancy,
I'm sorry to hear about your 319W. I kinda understand about timing sewing machines. It's too late now, but here is something I learned from working on cars and trucks. When you have to take something apart that has critical timing, put witness marks on everything. A small mark on opposing pieces will help you get it back together the same way it came apart. Works on distributors, should work on bobbin hooks. One more thing; when I was first married my wife had her two boys from the first marriage. To prevent unwanted trouble I put a lock on our bedroom door. Kept them out of trouble more times than not. When grand son comes to visit, lock the sewing room door. .................................................. .................................... PrincessPolkadot, Welcome to the forum. That's a nice machine. Some cleaning and TLC and I'll be she purrs like a kitten. I can't help with the needles though. Joe Good point. I was told by an old repair man to use something to scratch the mark on because most stuff will rub off. Since one of the times I had to do timing, it was because the screws weren't tight and the whole mess flew off, it would have been real nice to have had it scratched on, but it wasn't. What do YOU use to make your mark? Sewing machine oil will take off the permanent ink. |
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