Originally Posted by notsureif (Post 5323699)

nancy, I got up morning and took out the tape measure, your right on it's size,, this thing ( 16-188) is huge, I mean a monster ..

I have never named a car or machine other than POS or PITA...

BUT , This thing has to be either Burtus or Bubba,, it well wore as far as paint,, half the bed is raw metal, maybe a 1/3 of the decals still show, my thoughts are to clean and just clear coat the machine, making it easier to keep clean. yet show it's age.

I was worried about the needles, but nope the shop has a drawer full and many sizes, 50 cents each.., I check the bobbin because I read they were NLA, turns out the what I think is known as class 15 ? wide ones with all the holes in them.

you know what I made the deal to buy this aweek before she sent me a photo, so sight unseen. when she sent a pic the day before I when after it, seeing the photo,, I had to change my pants, I couldn't believe it was still in a treadle base..

I got the 66 treadle and the 128 yesterady also, with those it's time to call off this machine collect deal , BUT I know here there two more singer industrails a 16 and a 61 w, now I want those..

I'm a told junkie, my shop is all vintage to antique tools as in south bend lathe 1933, logan mill 1941, craftmans wood works tool from the 40's to mid 50's so on... all stuff before we became a throw away world..


this 16 - 188 is 90 year old..the only wear I see is where the upper foot hand lever has been viberating on it stop, there is not one puch mark from a needle hitting..


This 128 looks like a toy

Originally Posted by J Miller (Post 5323290)

My one BIG problem with multiple layers of thread on a bobbin is there's never enough to finish what you are doing. You just get started and run out. I did that three times with what was on the bobbin of the MW just to see how much was there. Not enough of anything until the last layer which was packed in rock hard and rusted.

Frugal is one thing, but winding over other thread is a wasted effort. More trouble than it's worth.

JMHO

Joe

Originally Posted by BoJangles (Post 5323779)

Ok Notsureif, I thought I was talking to a female, but this text makes me think different! You have to be male, although, some gals do collect tools too!

Nancy

Originally Posted by irishrose (Post 5323706)

I don't know about sew-classics, but I had to take pliers to the ones I bought from April1930s. The rolled edge on the repros was a little too much for my first 301 so I had to squeeze it in slightly all the way around. I'm glad the second came with a lot of original bobbins, because I do like use my lonely original for FMQ. The fixed ones work perfectly, but I don't want to take the chance on thread breaking or anything.

Originally Posted by J Miller (Post 5323838)

We have bought a bunch of bobbins from Sew-Classic. Lets' see:
Bobbins for our; 319K, Feather Weight, Kenmore, Class 15 and 66 metal and plastic, and every one of them has been good.

I cannot say the same thing for those we've bought at JoAnn's.

Joe

Originally Posted by J Miller (Post 5323281)

Nancy,
So what's wrong with using the term "harp space"? It just sounds silly to me as a harp is a large triangular musical instrument. But I've yet to read any incriminations on the use of the phrase. I guess I'll go back using "arch" instead of "harp". ;) :)]

Well, I made the mistake of using the term "harp space" like lots and lots of other folks! That term doesn't go well with some people - so now I just say the 'throat space' or something like that!@ If you google "harp space" you will get "throat space" on sewing machines as one of the examples for that term! Oh well!

Nancy