mlmishaan

So I bought a 411g on Ebay. Sometimes its a toss up on Ebay and this time I bought a doozy. So someone had 'modified' the machine quite a bit and it was not stitching. They also took the pedal apart and put one of the wires through the treadle hole in the front- so I had to dismantle the foot pedal just to get it out of the hole so I could treadle it. (one of the main reasons I wanted the machine)

I worked on the machine until it would make a stitch- but I had to order a new bobbin case and here is the reason for writing and asking for advice:

So chain stitching is also a huge thing that people want this machine for. This machine did come with the chain stitch bobbin case but not the needle plate. So I was wondering why the bobbin case would not sit properly in the bobbin race - would just rattle around and tangle the thread.

I took it out to compare it to an image on google- and noticed that on the upper right of the chain stitch bobbin case- there is suppose to be a little arm/hook that appears to have been removed on mine and filed down...…..wonderfullllllllll.

At first I though well maybe these things break off? I that common? Maybe that is one reason they are so rare? They break?

But after all the other crazy modifications on this machine I just felt in my gut that someone must have removed it and filed it down...….ruining a rare bobbin case. Why would it be so smooth if it wasn't filed.....right?

I was wondering if anyone has heard of this or seen something like this before? Is there a way to fix that hook piece? does it move or is it a fixed thing?

It's ruined anyway- so trying to modify it would be fun. I love a challenge. It's a small piece and if its suppose to be a fixed object on the bobbin case- there must be a way to modify it...…. I still need the plate though.

Kelsie

mimishaan: I am no help to you, just wanted to say Welcome to the board. There are lots of knowledgeable people here, I'm sure someone will have an answer for you.

OurWorkbench

Welcome. Hopefully, Miriam will pop in to help as I believe she has this machine or one similar.

I have a 626 T&S that will chain stitch, so I am familiar with the parts that will make the chain stitch. The bobbin cover for chain stitch does have a hook. I know the 600 series machines that do chain stitch are different from the 400 G series machines that do a chain stitch.

From some of the info that I found it had two different cases? one for chain stitch and one for lock stitch? Interestingly, the manual that I downloaded from http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...ine-manual.pdf it shows about the different threading and throat plate, but doesn't say anything about the bobbin case.

Not much help, am I.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

mlmishaan

Thank you to all the replies so far.