Singer Model 127
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Yes, people drop the dogs for FMQ, but don't even bother trying FMQ on a long bobbin machine, you'll bust the needle. Guaranteed.
The only reason I would want to bypass the feed dogs on a long bobbin machine would be to use a buttonholer. Because they don't drop you can get the screw driver out and remove them completely.
The only reason I would want to bypass the feed dogs on a long bobbin machine would be to use a buttonholer. Because they don't drop you can get the screw driver out and remove them completely.
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As far as using a button holler attachment, they have or should have a plate with them to cover the feed dogs.
Simple and no need to take any thing apart.
I didn't know about FMQ'ing with a long bobbin machine either. Now I won't be tempted.
Simple and no need to take any thing apart.
I didn't know about FMQ'ing with a long bobbin machine either. Now I won't be tempted.
#13
Joe - On a long bobbin machine you do have to take it apart.
The plate to cover the feed dogs screws down into the bed of the machine, and they are designed for round bobbin machines. The screw goes down under the bed right into the path of the arm of the shuttle carriage on a vibrating shuttle, so you can't turn the machine.
So you are left with two options, either set the stitch length to zero, leaving the teeth static but still there to rub on the underside of the material, or remove the dogs altogether. I prefer to get them out of the way completely.
Whether you can use the feed dog cover with a transverse shuttle, I don't know, I haven't tried yet.
The plate to cover the feed dogs screws down into the bed of the machine, and they are designed for round bobbin machines. The screw goes down under the bed right into the path of the arm of the shuttle carriage on a vibrating shuttle, so you can't turn the machine.
So you are left with two options, either set the stitch length to zero, leaving the teeth static but still there to rub on the underside of the material, or remove the dogs altogether. I prefer to get them out of the way completely.
Whether you can use the feed dog cover with a transverse shuttle, I don't know, I haven't tried yet.
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Singer 127 treadle question: bobbin thread catching
So if I read don't do something, I'm inclined to try it and see what happens. Kind of like the little tykes who must reach for the hot burner. This 127 treadle is right in the way according to my Better Half, but I've been trying to explain how it's good therapy just to practice sewing a straight line with it, it calms me...
Also thought I'd press to see how close it could get to Free-ish Motion Quilting, in spite of caution advised by more knowledgeable folk.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]449079[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]449080[/ATTACH]
Backing out pressure on foot, and stitch length adjuster, resulting in the above...not so bad, IMHO.
Course who knows what would happen with a quilting project!!!
My question is, I occasionally break the bobbin thread towards the upper end of the bobbin case, as you would hold it, when loading. It also pulls through the bobbin case, in a rather "notchy" manner. I should try another bobbin, which means winding one. The bobbin thread is cotton covered poly, and who knows how old, but it I wound the bobbin recently, although it has already a tiny tendancy to curling like like pig tails when unwound from the bobbin, but not too bad.
Suggesions? the bobbin winds pretty even on this machine, but it does seem to break at the very "top" end, where it seems to be a little under the layer of thread. I tried to add a bit of tension, and wound very slowly.
Also thought I'd press to see how close it could get to Free-ish Motion Quilting, in spite of caution advised by more knowledgeable folk.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]449079[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]449080[/ATTACH]
Backing out pressure on foot, and stitch length adjuster, resulting in the above...not so bad, IMHO.
Course who knows what would happen with a quilting project!!!
My question is, I occasionally break the bobbin thread towards the upper end of the bobbin case, as you would hold it, when loading. It also pulls through the bobbin case, in a rather "notchy" manner. I should try another bobbin, which means winding one. The bobbin thread is cotton covered poly, and who knows how old, but it I wound the bobbin recently, although it has already a tiny tendancy to curling like like pig tails when unwound from the bobbin, but not too bad.
Suggesions? the bobbin winds pretty even on this machine, but it does seem to break at the very "top" end, where it seems to be a little under the layer of thread. I tried to add a bit of tension, and wound very slowly.
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An old thread resurrected ... .
When using the feed dog cover plate for the button holler attachments I have seen many lengths of the screw threads. If you pic one that will not protrude through the bed of the machine there is no interference with the shuttle swing arm.
I found this out by trying to use one of the more modern fabric guides with the long screws. The short screws worked great.
Joe
When using the feed dog cover plate for the button holler attachments I have seen many lengths of the screw threads. If you pic one that will not protrude through the bed of the machine there is no interference with the shuttle swing arm.
I found this out by trying to use one of the more modern fabric guides with the long screws. The short screws worked great.
Joe
#17
I've used a buttonholer on my VS2 and it was sufficient to use the feed dog cover that came with the (1940s) buttonholer. It worked very well, creating a perfect button hole. Removing the feed dogs was unnecessary. Can't recall which screw I used to anchor the cover plate.
Last edited by manicmike; 11-29-2013 at 01:24 PM.
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I believe any 15x1 needle will fit it.
Singer calls theirs 2020s and 2045s.
Organ lables theirs as HAx1s
There's a ton of different labels for them but if you go to JoAnn's they have Schmetz and Singer on the shelf and they'll be marked. That's pretty much all they carry in the normal needle section.
Joe
Singer calls theirs 2020s and 2045s.
Organ lables theirs as HAx1s
There's a ton of different labels for them but if you go to JoAnn's they have Schmetz and Singer on the shelf and they'll be marked. That's pretty much all they carry in the normal needle section.
Joe
LOL, I didn't think I was losing my mind OR my memory quite yet! Had to go by Hancock's last night for thread, so I thought I'd pick up some needles while I was there. When I said 15x1's, the girl looked at me like I was from outer space, and kinda said, " . . . . . huh??"
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