Kloversews

I see this thread is fairly older but figured I’d add/ask a couple questions about this. I am currently working on converting a 1907 singer 66k from treadle to hand crank. No boss but I found a hand crank that replaces the stop motion knob. I am replacing the hand wheel in hopes to be able to use a bobbin winder still, found one on eBay from a 1923 singer 66k but it’s too small? It slides around on the shaft and doesn’t fit up against the stop motion knob. I am wondering if anyone knows which hand wheel I should be using. I looked through a few links and I think I need parts #15282. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

OurWorkbench

What was on your machine? If you are talking about something like https://www.sewingpartsonline.com/pr...-singer-p60592 then you shouldn't have to change the handwheel. I think this video may help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ7VyTkK-IA or https://thimblebook.com/2021/04/27/s...on-kit-review/

Kloversews

Yes, that is the hand crank I want to use. I want to switch the hand wheel so I can still use a bobbin winder. The machine originally came with the belt driven winder vs one with a tire that runs off the hand wheel. I did purchase a different winder that runs via tire. Got lucky and found a 1923 66k so the decals match. But the 9 spoke wheel I got doesn’t work for this machine. It’s too short where it slides onto the machine and doesn’t line up where you attach the stop motion knob.

OurWorkbench

Okay, I'm starting to understand. It took a bit. I know that the hand wheels with the bobbin winder attached are different. I don't think there was a 66 spoked wheel that had a bobbin winder. If I really wanted one of those hand cranks (which I don't for a couple of reasons) I think I would get a rubber belt to put on when needed to wind a bobbin or actually I have a Sidewinder that I would use. I worked on a machine (Franklin) that even though it had a swing away motor, it uses a separate spring or rubber belt to wind the bobbin.

ETA: or is that the other hand wheel in the picture that has the bobbin winder attached to the belt guard?

Kloversews

After way more reading I realized if I wanted to make this particular machine hand crank I’d have to swap the hand wheel bushing, which I do not want to mess with. So, I’m keeping it treadle and I scooped up a 1926 66 off eBay that I can 100% convert without this issue. It currently has a solid wheel and belt driven motor, wiring is toast. It’s perfect for this project. And I have a 9 spoke and bobbin winder waiting for it. I am curious about why you don’t care for the stop motion knob hand crank? I’ll either get a vintage or reproduction crank now that I can. But why no like?

OurWorkbench

From my understanding, the stop motion hand crank only stitches one stitch per rotation of the crank. Also, based on the youtube link I gave above, it looks like you have to turn the crank in a counter clockwise direction, whereas the 'normal' direction to turn a crank would be in a clockwise direction.

Kloversews

I appreciate the information! I also wanted to share this blog I came across that really gave a lot of excellent information on hand wheels.

http://vssmb.blogspot.com/2011/07/lo...heels.html?m=1

bkay

Thanks for sharing that info. I don't think I'll use it anytime soon, but it's good to know it's there.

bkay