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That is not a T serial number. Thank you for posting a picture of it. Go back and read post #32 as J3General says the most recent acquisition is a September 30, 1901 allocated serial number at Elizabeth, New Jersey.
Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.
Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.
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If I turn my 99 and 201 in reverse by the hand wheel it will move the fabric in reverse, but it doesn't stitch at all, since the race and hook runs in reverse too. The 201 has a reverse lever, but I mentioned it for comparsion. I'm not sure how the 27 behaves, but I guess the shuttle and every thing goes in reverse, and the interlocking of upper and lower thread goes all wrong.
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If I turn my 99 and 201 in reverse by the hand wheel it will move the fabric in reverse, but it doesn't stitch at all, since the race and hook runs in reverse too. The 201 has a reverse lever, but I mentioned it for comparsion. I'm not sure how the 27 behaves, but I guess the shuttle and every thing goes in reverse, and the interlocking of upper and lower thread goes all wrong.
It does seem that reversing the hand wheel does not really change any motion but the shuttle doesn’t seem to capture the thread correctly
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Oil? I’m sure there is another thread on that. I have been using the bottle of air tool oil I got with a stapler. I’m out of oil. I watched one of the videos about restoration and I believe that mentioned WD 40? I’m thinking VVL 800 would do the job?
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You can use sewing machine oil, gun oil or tri-flow. I'm sure there are others, but those are the ones I am familiar with.
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I'm not sure what VVL 800 is, but generally a pure acid free oil around SAE 10 is recommended, also know as sewing machine oil, a basic oil used for many purposes. The problem with most other oils are their additives, in the long run they have caused problems. Some sewing machine oils are even a bit lighter than the original Singer oil. There are two oils I know that can improve on the basic oil; Triflow and Finish Line Ceramic Wet lube. I have had my hands on several of the common brands, but far from all. This subject easily generates a heated debate.
I have used WD-40 to flush out dried up oil and grime, it can speed things up. The down side is it has made several old cast iron straight stitchers freeze up more than twice (in my case it has most often been the stitch length function and feed dog movements). Light spray can oils work well for cleaning purposes, but for the basic lubrication turn to a more suitable oil as soon as possible. I think spray can oils dry up too quickly. There are a few common tricks for clean up purposes; you can add a few drops of white spirit or kerosene to joints, hinges and gears too, but be careful with decals on worn machines.
I guess bkay has had bad experiences with WD-40, and 3-in-1 oil has very bad reputation for gumming things up.
I have used WD-40 to flush out dried up oil and grime, it can speed things up. The down side is it has made several old cast iron straight stitchers freeze up more than twice (in my case it has most often been the stitch length function and feed dog movements). Light spray can oils work well for cleaning purposes, but for the basic lubrication turn to a more suitable oil as soon as possible. I think spray can oils dry up too quickly. There are a few common tricks for clean up purposes; you can add a few drops of white spirit or kerosene to joints, hinges and gears too, but be careful with decals on worn machines.
I guess bkay has had bad experiences with WD-40, and 3-in-1 oil has very bad reputation for gumming things up.
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VVL 800 is a common military weapons lubricating oil. It’s more difficult to find because everything evolves. I’m thinking a pint of oil would last me a lifetime. I just didn’t want to cause any more problems with the wrong oil. Any oil is better than no oil. Guess I will order some sewing machine oil. I see this as a hot topic that could be very debatable. I will oil with what I consider reasonable oil. I will not bring up this subject again.
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VVL 800 might be fine, the problem with most of the brands is the secrecy of the ingredients and we go by what we are told by others. I use a quite a bit of oil when cleaning up a machine, but most of it is spent on my bike. Spray can stuff cleans the chain rather well. Sewing machine oil is rather basic stuff, you should be able to find it near you for about $2-3. Triflow and the fancier teflon added oils are a bit more expensive. I have had a spray can of gun oil, I can't remember the name, but if its' similar to the VVL 800 it should be fine. You can always take it from there, it will not do any harm on the internals.
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Most all these guys know more about sewing machines than I do. I just repeat what has been told to me and what I've experienced in my limited sewing machine cleaning.
I think sewing lubrication is a very interesting subject. (OK, maybe I'm a little nutty.)
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I don't think it's a hot topic at all. Like everything else, different people have different opinions. Everyone has a right to theirs. I've never noticed anyone being ugly in the 2 or so years I've been hanging around.
Most all these guys know more about sewing machines than I do. I just repeat what has been told to me and what I've experienced in my limited sewing machine cleaning.
I think sewing lubrication is a very interesting subject. (OK, maybe I'm a little nutty.)
bkay
Most all these guys know more about sewing machines than I do. I just repeat what has been told to me and what I've experienced in my limited sewing machine cleaning.
I think sewing lubrication is a very interesting subject. (OK, maybe I'm a little nutty.)
bkay
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