Update on Having a Chance to Buy A 20's Singer
10-26-2012, 08:43 PM
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10-26-2012, 09:11 PM
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I'm guessing she meant that the serial number is in two spots on that chart.
When I saw the serial number she posted, it looked short a number. Usually that vintage is 7 digits after a letter....
The book says 99, because it's a 99 possibly the 99-13 you think it is... the 99K came afterward. All of the 99K I have seen have a backtack, yours just a screw to change stitch length.
Edit: Keep in mind that the manual could be from another machine, or reprinted, or even an original printed several years before the manufacture of the machine. A manual though is good for identifying the machine, if it matches the pictures in the book. i.e it looks like grayhare's, and doesn't have 2 slide plates that move front to back instead of left to right. The 128 that was mentioned would have the front and back slide plates.
There are a couple of ways to secure the stitch without reverse.
1 Hold the fabric so it can't be fed with the dogs for a few stitches
2. Change your stitch length to or close to 0 stitches per inch then sew a few stitches
Wiring's not hard to do, Rain has a tutorial on his blog that's for a different motor, but teaches you all the principles.
When I saw the serial number she posted, it looked short a number. Usually that vintage is 7 digits after a letter....
The book says 99, because it's a 99 possibly the 99-13 you think it is... the 99K came afterward. All of the 99K I have seen have a backtack, yours just a screw to change stitch length.
Edit: Keep in mind that the manual could be from another machine, or reprinted, or even an original printed several years before the manufacture of the machine. A manual though is good for identifying the machine, if it matches the pictures in the book. i.e it looks like grayhare's, and doesn't have 2 slide plates that move front to back instead of left to right. The 128 that was mentioned would have the front and back slide plates.
There are a couple of ways to secure the stitch without reverse.
1 Hold the fabric so it can't be fed with the dogs for a few stitches
2. Change your stitch length to or close to 0 stitches per inch then sew a few stitches
Wiring's not hard to do, Rain has a tutorial on his blog that's for a different motor, but teaches you all the principles.
My side plate opens left to right. I do believe I was fortunate to also get the table with it. My manual does not show the table like the one on ebay does. Doesn't the motor on it take some kind of lubricant? My manual doesn't address the motor.
Thank you for the information. I will look into working on this myself if it is that easy.
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10-26-2012, 09:23 PM
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That's really weird. The ISMACS site is usually quite accurate in my experience. Though I'd think with that much information, there are bound to be errors.
I'm not sure which lever you mean,.. unless a hand crank attachment? Usually the treadle belt goes on a "ledge" attached to the balance wheel, between it and the body. Uhm.. actually, thinking about it, right where the rubber belt on a motorized one would go. (Sorry, long day.)
Solid hand wheels are machines that came motorized from the factory.
You were definitely fortunate to get the table. It's quite rare to find a table for a 3/4 size machine. Not $899 rare mind you. No, the machine isn't worth that. That ebay seller always has his prices out of line. You'll see his auctions pop up in the Vintage giggles thread from time to time. You got a good deal, not the deal of a lifetime though. ( as in, That ebayer's price is out to lunch, not the average.)
It seems like you have the manual for a similar but not identical machine. That might be because someone lost the manual and got a replacement. I've also seen motor manuals, that might have been in a transition period where they were supplying 2 manuals... just a guess. Yes, the motor requires grease. Singer grease / Singer Lubricant only. Almost any manual that has motor stuff in it will help you. Maybe try the ISMACS site and download say a 15-90, 201, 66 or even a different 99 manual from there. I bet any of them will address the motor.
Any time. Good luck! Just ask if you have any other questions.
I'm not sure which lever you mean,.. unless a hand crank attachment? Usually the treadle belt goes on a "ledge" attached to the balance wheel, between it and the body. Uhm.. actually, thinking about it, right where the rubber belt on a motorized one would go. (Sorry, long day.)
Solid hand wheels are machines that came motorized from the factory.
You were definitely fortunate to get the table. It's quite rare to find a table for a 3/4 size machine. Not $899 rare mind you. No, the machine isn't worth that. That ebay seller always has his prices out of line. You'll see his auctions pop up in the Vintage giggles thread from time to time. You got a good deal, not the deal of a lifetime though. ( as in, That ebayer's price is out to lunch, not the average.)
It seems like you have the manual for a similar but not identical machine. That might be because someone lost the manual and got a replacement. I've also seen motor manuals, that might have been in a transition period where they were supplying 2 manuals... just a guess. Yes, the motor requires grease. Singer grease / Singer Lubricant only. Almost any manual that has motor stuff in it will help you. Maybe try the ISMACS site and download say a 15-90, 201, 66 or even a different 99 manual from there. I bet any of them will address the motor.
Any time. Good luck! Just ask if you have any other questions.
10-27-2012, 11:34 AM
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99 & 128-13
I have both. My 128-13 has a shuttle. I am going to try pictures of both. The one on the right is the 99. the next pic this the 99 and the last is the 128-13. This may or may not help but I hope it will. Sandy
10-27-2012, 05:00 PM
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Yes Archaic the number on the ISMACS International dating list twice, once under the 99K and another time under the 128 that Grayhare pointed out. I don't understand that one unless it is a mistake. My Serial# has six numbers but it only has one capital letter. According to the list there were both kinds of serial numbers. My machine looks like the one in the manual except is doesn't have a lever on the balance wheel as I believe from the looks of it which would allow it to be used as a treadle machine. My balance wheel is solid and not slotted like the one in the manual also.
My side plate opens left to right. I do believe I was fortunate to also get the table with it. My manual does not show the table like the one on ebay does. Doesn't the motor on it take some kind of lubricant? My manual doesn't address the motor.
Thank you for the information. I will look into working on this myself if it is that easy.
Ladibug
My side plate opens left to right. I do believe I was fortunate to also get the table with it. My manual does not show the table like the one on ebay does. Doesn't the motor on it take some kind of lubricant? My manual doesn't address the motor.
Thank you for the information. I will look into working on this myself if it is that easy.
Ladibug
http://www.tfsr.org/publications/tec...achine_manual/
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10-29-2012, 08:34 AM
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Hi, I don't know if you have this website, it is VERY good, a lot of information. Very helpful when you are working on your machine.
http://www.tfsr.org/publications/tec...achine_manual/
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http://www.tfsr.org/publications/tec...achine_manual/
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10-29-2012, 08:51 AM
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I have decided to go anhead and drop it off at the sewing machine shop tommorrow as I am afraid I don;t have enough knowledge to do it right. I am afraid I might do something to hurt the machine and I don;t want to do that. Thanks so very much for all your help and information. Tank goodness for QB and for the loving helpful people on it!!
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10-29-2012, 09:24 AM
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LadiBug,
That TFSR link that was provided will walk you through a better servicing than most shops will do. It's an excellent tutorial. If you're patient and pay attention to what you're doing, I have every confidence you could do the servicing yourself. And of course, any questions you had, we can help you out. There are probably a 100 99s who have found homes with people on this board.
That TFSR link that was provided will walk you through a better servicing than most shops will do. It's an excellent tutorial. If you're patient and pay attention to what you're doing, I have every confidence you could do the servicing yourself. And of course, any questions you had, we can help you out. There are probably a 100 99s who have found homes with people on this board.
10-29-2012, 12:27 PM
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LadiBug,
That TFSR link that was provided will walk you through a better servicing than most shops will do. It's an excellent tutorial. If you're patient and pay attention to what you're doing, I have every confidence you could do the servicing yourself. And of course, any questions you had, we can help you out. There are probably a 100 99s who have found homes with people on this board.
That TFSR link that was provided will walk you through a better servicing than most shops will do. It's an excellent tutorial. If you're patient and pay attention to what you're doing, I have every confidence you could do the servicing yourself. And of course, any questions you had, we can help you out. There are probably a 100 99s who have found homes with people on this board.
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