Victorian aged Gritzner - I should go back and get it, shouldn't I?
01-26-2015, 01:31 AM
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Thanks everyone! She's sure turning out to be an unusual machine. I found exactly 1 photo of the same machine online here: http://www.naehmaschinenmuseum.com/2.html just about half way down the page.
Can that be right? 1872? I can't currently read her serial number, it will need a little help before I can.
CostumeGirl - Is your Kijiji Machine on that page? There are many countries represented in links at the top of the page.
She's currently marinating in oil. The faceplate finally came off as well as various screws. I'm not going to soak anything overnight in Evaporust though, because we had some blackening on the bobbin case over a few hours when the neighbor came over and we got to chatting and I forgot about the parts in the evaporust.
Things are cleaning up nicely. DH said she's not so much rusty as bare metal. My hands sure are turning brown as I work though!
I may have to take you up on that! Thanks! You sure managed to play this one close to your chest. I didn't realize how uncommon she was. Thanks for encouraging me to go get her.
Yes! She caught me off guard at first too. Luckily, I always have a hand under them just in case something falls out, like the whole machine or the base from the machine! 
I can see traces of the decals she once had. I don't know what I'll do about her finish - right now I just want to see her bright work become bright again and see her turn a stitch. It will take a while though, I've currently got less than a mm of wiggle room (somewhere around 1/32") - The top shaft and needle would move if the bottom wasn't frozen. I think the bottom is seized right where it exits the pillar. I worked some Tri-Flow in there and I'm seeing the oil bubble a little if I gently rock the wheel back and forth. This will be a lesson in patience. No sledge hammers. I promise.
Can that be right? 1872? I can't currently read her serial number, it will need a little help before I can.
CostumeGirl - Is your Kijiji Machine on that page? There are many countries represented in links at the top of the page.
She's currently marinating in oil. The faceplate finally came off as well as various screws. I'm not going to soak anything overnight in Evaporust though, because we had some blackening on the bobbin case over a few hours when the neighbor came over and we got to chatting and I forgot about the parts in the evaporust.
Things are cleaning up nicely. DH said she's not so much rusty as bare metal. My hands sure are turning brown as I work though!
I may have to take you up on that! Thanks! You sure managed to play this one close to your chest. I didn't realize how uncommon she was. Thanks for encouraging me to go get her.
I can see traces of the decals she once had. I don't know what I'll do about her finish - right now I just want to see her bright work become bright again and see her turn a stitch. It will take a while though, I've currently got less than a mm of wiggle room (somewhere around 1/32") - The top shaft and needle would move if the bottom wasn't frozen. I think the bottom is seized right where it exits the pillar. I worked some Tri-Flow in there and I'm seeing the oil bubble a little if I gently rock the wheel back and forth. This will be a lesson in patience. No sledge hammers. I promise.
01-26-2015, 10:33 AM
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here is a link showing similar/
http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/other2.htm
This model could be as early as the 1870's or as late as the 1890's
http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/other2.htm
This model could be as early as the 1870's or as late as the 1890's
01-26-2015, 12:37 PM
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http://www.naehmaschinenmuseum.com/8.html
I think these are toy machines?
01-26-2015, 12:41 PM
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here is a link showing similar/
http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/other2.htm
This model could be as early as the 1870's or as late as the 1890's
http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/other2.htm
This model could be as early as the 1870's or as late as the 1890's
I think that!s the first one I hit on Saturday that I decided roughly 1880. Do you know anything more about this machine in particular, Steve? There's practically nothing online.I just checked on her. She's still thinking about letting me remove her parts. How far should I attempt to disassemble to help her? I'm not afraid of timing it or anything...
01-26-2015, 01:17 PM
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In my experience, some of the key points to note for pinning down the year/brand/model are:
Type of drive (Transverse(TS), Vibrating Shuttle(VS), etc)
Type and location of tension
Slide type
Type, shape and location of bobbin winder
Importers badge or badge style
Finial style on top of needlebar and presser foot
Casting differences in bed
Rear access panel shape
Serial number
Type of drive (Transverse(TS), Vibrating Shuttle(VS), etc)
Type and location of tension
Slide type
Type, shape and location of bobbin winder
Importers badge or badge style
Finial style on top of needlebar and presser foot
Casting differences in bed
Rear access panel shape
Serial number
01-26-2015, 01:28 PM
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needlebar has this way cool copy of an ad for your machine (in wooden base)
http://www.needlebar.org/cm/displayi..._display_media
here is a person who thinks that by painting it bronze you can ask more... (sigh)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1860-ANTIQUE...item4d2c7a00f1
FYI - Contrary to modern expectations, the cast iron base or (paw foot) was actually the bottom of the line model available. (cast base was FAR cheaper to produce than wood base and lid.)
http://www.needlebar.org/cm/displayi..._display_media
here is a person who thinks that by painting it bronze you can ask more... (sigh)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1860-ANTIQUE...item4d2c7a00f1
FYI - Contrary to modern expectations, the cast iron base or (paw foot) was actually the bottom of the line model available. (cast base was FAR cheaper to produce than wood base and lid.)
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