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03-09-2011, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by vintagemotif
I have a free "Free" too. Serial #0240726, patent dates June 14 1910 Oct 10 1911, I hope that helps for dating.
I haven't used mine since I need to find the little ball bearings for the pitman rod.
I haven't used mine since I need to find the little ball bearings for the pitman rod.
Playswithcolor has 031503 Free #5 bought at end of WW1 1918 or 1919?
Monica's Free 0240726 - is it a Free # 5?
Nana's Free 827313 - is it a Free #5?
My friend Deb's Free #5 - C76088
My Free #5 - C83642
Do you all have the Free #5? Does anyone else have one with pending patent dates written on the cabinet top?
Does anyone have a Free with patent dates on the slide plate? If so, what are the dates?
Nancy
Please make sure I have the correct serial numbers. I want to try and figure out why two of the serial number start with 'C'? Something to do with patent's still pending on those machines or a different factory?
03-09-2011, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by playswithcolor
Some of the decals on mine changed from gold to silver - especially on the bed of the head. These were really worn, so maybe the couldn't handle the cleaner I used? I only tried cleaning stuff that a sister who collects vintage machines suggested.
My cabinet has the curved treadle cabinet with drawers.
Nancy
03-09-2011, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dirty1mom
Ok, I am going to try to add photos of my "new" machine. I am using the craigslist photos since my camera died. Hope this works.
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03-09-2011, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dirty1mom
I bought a treadle last night. The plate says "Domestic" S.M. Co
Pat. May 19 1863
Nov. 15 1864
Jan. 31 1871
NEW YORK
Under that is:
41675
It has a requtangluar bed. Any guesses? Coffin lid has a chunk of wood missing but the drawers are there. So of the pearl inlay is missing.
Pat. May 19 1863
Nov. 15 1864
Jan. 31 1871
NEW YORK
Under that is:
41675
It has a requtangluar bed. Any guesses? Coffin lid has a chunk of wood missing but the drawers are there. So of the pearl inlay is missing.
I didn't realize that Domestic was an actual company because there are so many machines called 'domestic.' Anyway, there was a Domestic Sewing Machine Co that started making machines before 1869, but the machines didn't say Domestic until 1869. Domestic was in business until 1924 when White bought them out. I have been confused on your serial number since you posted it because on the White dating site, your number does not fit in! I understand why now -- your machine is not a badged White, but a Domestic!
Again beautiful machine and cabinet!
Nancy
03-09-2011, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by playswithcolor
Originally Posted by BoJangles
Ok you guys, I finally got my Free treadle in the house. Had to put this one behind the sofa in the entry. I am sorry the cabinet photos didn't come out real clear.
I moved my 15-88 into my sewing room! Yippeeeeeee! I finally made the commitment to have a treadle in the sewing room -- they are all over the house -- except the sewing room!
Nancy
I moved my 15-88 into my sewing room! Yippeeeeeee! I finally made the commitment to have a treadle in the sewing room -- they are all over the house -- except the sewing room!
Nancy
Some of the decals on mine changed from gold to silver - especially on the bed of the head. These were really worn, so maybe the couldn't handle the cleaner I used? I only tried cleaning stuff that a sister who collects vintage machines suggested.
My cabinet has the curved treadle cabinet with drawers.
03-09-2011, 06:41 AM
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Monica what page is the picture of your Free posted here?
Nancy
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03-09-2011, 06:45 AM
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Do you all have the Free #5? Does anyone else have one with pending patent dates written on the cabinet top?
Does anyone have a Free with patent dates on the slide plate? If so, what are the dates?
Nancy
ok I just looked at the slide plate. It says Patented Feb 11-02,
Oct 17- 05, July 30-07, Sept 15-08, Dec 21-09, Jan 4-10 and states other patents pending.
These patent dates are pretty consistent with when I was told it was purchased using ww1 war bonus.
Serial number 031503 no letter prefix on serial #
Hope this info helps with dating your machine.
Does anyone have a Free with patent dates on the slide plate? If so, what are the dates?
Nancy
ok I just looked at the slide plate. It says Patented Feb 11-02,
Oct 17- 05, July 30-07, Sept 15-08, Dec 21-09, Jan 4-10 and states other patents pending.
These patent dates are pretty consistent with when I was told it was purchased using ww1 war bonus.
Serial number 031503 no letter prefix on serial #
Hope this info helps with dating your machine.
03-09-2011, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by playswithcolor
ok I just looked at the slide plate. It says Patented Feb 11-02,
Oct 17- 05, July 30-07, Sept 15-08, Dec 21-09, Jan 4-10 and states other patents pending.
These patent dates are pretty consistent with when I was told it was purchased using ww1 war bonus.
Serial number 031503 no letter prefix on serial #
Hope this info helps with dating your machine.
Oct 17- 05, July 30-07, Sept 15-08, Dec 21-09, Jan 4-10 and states other patents pending.
These patent dates are pretty consistent with when I was told it was purchased using ww1 war bonus.
Serial number 031503 no letter prefix on serial #
Hope this info helps with dating your machine.
Can you post a picture of yours or did I miss the picture?
Nancy
03-09-2011, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BoJangles
Originally Posted by vintagemotif
I have a free "Free" too. Serial #0240726, patent dates June 14 1910 Oct 10 1911, I hope that helps for dating.
I haven't used mine since I need to find the little ball bearings for the pitman rod.
I haven't used mine since I need to find the little ball bearings for the pitman rod.
Playswithcolor has 031503 Free #5 bought at end of WW1 1918 or 1919?
Monica's Free 0240726 - is it a Free # 5?
Nana's Free 827313 - is it a Free #5?
My friend Deb's Free #5 - C76088
My Free #5 - C83642
Do you all have the Free #5? Does anyone else have one with pending patent dates written on the cabinet top?
Does anyone have a Free with patent dates on the slide plate? If so, what are the dates?
Nancy
Please make sure I have the correct serial numbers. I want to try and figure out why two of the serial number start with 'C'? Something to do with patent's still pending on those machines or a different factory?
The treadle serial number is 873674 the patent numbers go from June 11, 1902 thru Jan. 4, 1910.
The electric is a number 8 CE53077 Last patent Feb. 11, 1902 thru May 20, 1913
One is in a parlor cabinet. It's covered up right now and I can't get the number from it but here is a picture.
free machine
[ATTACH=CONFIG]124675[/ATTACH]
parlor cabinet for the free machine
[ATTACH=CONFIG]125048[/ATTACH]
cabinet closed
[ATTACH=CONFIG]125362[/ATTACH]
03-09-2011, 06:59 AM
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I will take its photo and get it posted. I have a new computer and need to load photo software first.
I forgot to share that ISMACS has the manual for the Free No 5 on line. It is 22 pages. It printed out nicely- fairly clear and readable. A couple of the diagrams are iffy- the #s of the parts are difficult to read.
The manual is a hoot to read. It says in numerous places to use quality thread, quality needles, quality sewing machine oil, and warns against letting a handy man or someone who sells other brands of machines make adjustments or repairs.
It shows a picture of the needle length it uses but I didn't see any kind of # or needle size. I need to read a little more to see if I can find it.
I forgot to share that ISMACS has the manual for the Free No 5 on line. It is 22 pages. It printed out nicely- fairly clear and readable. A couple of the diagrams are iffy- the #s of the parts are difficult to read.
The manual is a hoot to read. It says in numerous places to use quality thread, quality needles, quality sewing machine oil, and warns against letting a handy man or someone who sells other brands of machines make adjustments or repairs.
It shows a picture of the needle length it uses but I didn't see any kind of # or needle size. I need to read a little more to see if I can find it.
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