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03-18-2012, 07:05 AM
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For those of you that can't remember the last page you read, here's a trip I do. After you've read the last page, bookmark it and then go to favorites or bookmark, which ever you have and delete the other bookmark, that way the next time you come to the site, you be on the last page you read. HIH's some of you. Works for me. Lee
03-18-2012, 07:54 AM
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I've been doing some FM on my !5 Clone - gotta love it. I ran out of thread. Now a trip to JoAnns or somewhere to buy thread. Bummer. I was on such a roll, too. NOTHING seems to FM like that machine. I just leave the darning foot on it all the time even though it works for other stuff.
03-18-2012, 08:43 AM
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Nancy,
You don't suppose you could reduce those pics down to 640x480 or so and repost them? My machine just will not open them fully.
Joe
You don't suppose you could reduce those pics down to 640x480 or so and repost them? My machine just will not open them fully.
Joe
03-18-2012, 09:04 AM
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Ok Joe, I re-sized them to 75%. Tell me if this works.[ATTACH=CONFIG]320768[/ATTACH]
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03-18-2012, 09:06 AM
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http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...s-t130994.html
We need a sticky for this one and the vintage quilt gallery.
We need a sticky for this one and the vintage quilt gallery.
03-18-2012, 09:07 AM
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Nancy, machines with horizontal hooks are notorious for not performing FMQ as well as those with vertical hooks. Although the timing may need a little tweaking, it simply may be the design of the machine. If the machine is doing all of it's embroidery type stitches with no problems, I would be very surprised if it's timing needed any adjustment. This is why both the 401 and 500 series are not the best machines to FMQ either. The raised throat plate on those two don't help, of course.
You know this surprises me? I always heard the 201 was the 'finest machine' Singer made. It surprises me that it doesn't do a good job with FM. I have to agree with Monica about the 15, though. I use my 15-88 exclusively for FM when I am doing a Quilt as you Go quilt top. I wonder if what Cathy said about skipping stitches with the 319w if it weren't timed correctly could be the problem with the 201's you and Sharon are trying to use? Maybe, not because the 201 is a horizontal hook, and the 319w is a vertical hook?
Monica, those photos of the 201 being cleaned are cool, but with the 319w I had to put back together and time - there was nothing left on the bar it attaches to! I had everything off, including the hook/race, the whole bobbin assembly. All you saw when you looked under the machine was a bar where everything had been! So scary looking! I should have taken photos too, but I was too stressed out about getting it all back together! I have to admit it was a pretty cool learning experience!
Nancy
Monica, those photos of the 201 being cleaned are cool, but with the 319w I had to put back together and time - there was nothing left on the bar it attaches to! I had everything off, including the hook/race, the whole bobbin assembly. All you saw when you looked under the machine was a bar where everything had been! So scary looking! I should have taken photos too, but I was too stressed out about getting it all back together! I have to admit it was a pretty cool learning experience!
Nancy
03-18-2012, 09:16 AM
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Nancy, machines with horizontal hooks are notorious for not performing FMQ as well as those with vertical hooks. Although the timing may need a little tweaking, it simply may be the design of the machine. If the machine is doing all of it's embroidery type stitches with no problems, I would be very surprised if it's timing needed any adjustment. This is why both the 401 and 500 series are not the best machines to FMQ either. The raised throat plate on those two don't help, of course.
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03-18-2012, 09:24 AM
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http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...s-t130994.html
We need a sticky for this one and the vintage quilt gallery.
We need a sticky for this one and the vintage quilt gallery.
Vintagemotif - thanks for the link to the blog - excellent pictures there.
03-18-2012, 09:26 AM
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Nancy, yes. My machines with horizontal bobbins can do a good job of FM, but the vertical bobbin machines perform FMQ a touch better. There are less tension issues. 15's will do a great job because of the vertical hook. If you've read my past postings about the 319, the issue is the design of the needle clamp or needle holder. It interferes with any FMQ foot/darning foot I've tried.
I was hopeful that the new spring I got from Cathy would work, but it doesn't. It again hits in a spot that makes FMQ impossible. I'm going to try the spring on my Rotary 77 to see if that will work. I think the 319 could be a decent FMQ machine, it's finding a foot that works that's the big problem with this machine!
I was hopeful that the new spring I got from Cathy would work, but it doesn't. It again hits in a spot that makes FMQ impossible. I'm going to try the spring on my Rotary 77 to see if that will work. I think the 319 could be a decent FMQ machine, it's finding a foot that works that's the big problem with this machine!
03-18-2012, 09:45 AM
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Nancy,
The adjustment that I did for Monica was only the bobbin case tension.
I mentioned skipped stitches on the 319 because you said that the hook tip was intersecting behind the eye of the needle. It needs to intersect in the scarf area to take full advantage of the developing thread loop. If it intersects too early the loop won't be fully formed therefore resulting in skipped stitches. (Hope that wasn't too confusing.)
Many people have problems doing FM with the horizontal hook machines, but not all machines for some unknown reasons. The thread path is the issue. The thread on the horizontal bobbin machine has to take an extra (sharp) turn to come up to through the needle plate and this can cause extra drag and therefore tension problems.
Cathy
The adjustment that I did for Monica was only the bobbin case tension.
I mentioned skipped stitches on the 319 because you said that the hook tip was intersecting behind the eye of the needle. It needs to intersect in the scarf area to take full advantage of the developing thread loop. If it intersects too early the loop won't be fully formed therefore resulting in skipped stitches. (Hope that wasn't too confusing.)
Many people have problems doing FM with the horizontal hook machines, but not all machines for some unknown reasons. The thread path is the issue. The thread on the horizontal bobbin machine has to take an extra (sharp) turn to come up to through the needle plate and this can cause extra drag and therefore tension problems.
Cathy
You know this surprises me? I always heard the 201 was the 'finest machine' Singer made. It surprises me that it doesn't do a good job with FM. I have to agree with Monica about the 15, though. I use my 15-88 exclusively for FM when I am doing a Quilt as you Go quilt top. I wonder if what Cathy said about skipping stitches with the 319w if it weren't timed correctly could be the problem with the 201's you and Sharon are trying to use? Maybe, not because the 201 is a horizontal hook, and the 319w is a vertical hook?
Monica, those photos of the 201 being cleaned are cool, but with the 319w I had to put back together and time - there was nothing left on the bar it attaches to! I had everything off, including the hook/race, the whole bobbin assembly. All you saw when you looked under the machine was a bar where everything had been! So scary looking! I should have taken photos too, but I was too stressed out about getting it all back together! I have to admit it was a pretty cool learning experience!
Nancy
Monica, those photos of the 201 being cleaned are cool, but with the 319w I had to put back together and time - there was nothing left on the bar it attaches to! I had everything off, including the hook/race, the whole bobbin assembly. All you saw when you looked under the machine was a bar where everything had been! So scary looking! I should have taken photos too, but I was too stressed out about getting it all back together! I have to admit it was a pretty cool learning experience!
Nancy
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