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    Old 03-18-2012, 09:54 AM
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    Originally Posted by BoJangles
    I wonder if what Cathy said about skipping stitches with the 319w if it weren't timed correctly could be the problem with the 201's you and Sharon are trying to use? Maybe, not because the 201 is a So scary looking! I should have taken photos too, but I was too stressed out about getting it all back together! I have to admit it was a pretty cool learning experience!

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    Nancy,
    I don't have skipped stitches when the machine is straight stitching. The poor FMQ from the 201 could be due to me or just the way the thread comes out of the bobbin/race. I believe it is Wiki that shows a beautiful example of how the two different races, vertical vs. horizontal, work.

    When the "Timing" is out, then you have skipped stitches or no stitches picked up. I don't.

    I could have taken that last screw out for the race, but it was in there too tight. I didn't want to strip the groove in nut, someone before me already made a bit of a mess with that groove.

    I checked the timing on that machine while cleaning it yesterday. Thanks to the manual on the Wefixit yahoo group site I was able to make sure what I was doing was correct. All is good! Cathy had already given me a quick lesson on checking timing on machines with shuttles. I applied that information on timing that she explained to me, readings from Wiki on how a stitch is made, and the manual information for my machine.

    IF I happen to get skipped stitches, I always start with checking to see if I have the needle in correctly. Easy for me to forget which direction the needle goes since I have so many machines that are all so different.

    I always try to take pictures of removing parts so that I have an order to removal, to see what it looked like before and after, and for future reference. Thank God I didn't have to do to much of that yesterday since Rain's blog has all the needed photos for this simple job.

    While the "how to do the timing" on a Singer 319w is still fresh in your mind, you could do a tutorial to share with others here on the QB. Do you have a blog? IF so, you could post it there too. I followed Rain's excellent tutorial on his blog on the Singer 201. And the heads up on how to use the little silver Singer screwdriver while removing and installing the hook made life easier- no frustrations or bad works.
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    Originally Posted by Candace
    Nancy, yes. My machines with horizontal bobbins can do a good job of FM, but the vertical bobbin machines perform FMQ a touch better. There are less tension issues. 15's will do a great job because of the vertical hook. If you've read my past postings about the 319, the issue is the design of the needle clamp or needle holder. It interferes with any FMQ foot/darning foot I've tried.

    I was hopeful that the new spring I got from Cathy would work, but it doesn't. It again hits in a spot that makes FMQ impossible. I'm going to try the spring on my Rotary 77 to see if that will work. I think the 319 could be a decent FMQ machine, it's finding a foot that works that's the big problem with this machine!
    http://shop.sew-classic.com/Low-Shan...t-SCF55417.htm - Candace I have one something like that - it is wider at the shank than the others and seems to fit around the needle holder better - I just tried to FM and it worked ok but I didn't try the other plate for it so the feed dogs were still active and I had to fight them just a little. It made a nice stitch though. I should try with the other plate. I shall return.
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    Old 03-18-2012, 09:55 AM
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    I haven't seen a W&G like this one before....kinda cool!

    http://reno.craigslist.org/atq/2834953578.html
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    Old 03-18-2012, 09:57 AM
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    Candace,

    Can you post or email me a picture of the spring on your 319. I can usually make it work. I had to bend Monica's spring a bit to make it work on her machines.

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    Nancy, yes. My machines with horizontal bobbins can do a good job of FM, but the vertical bobbin machines perform FMQ a touch better. There are less tension issues. 15's will do a great job because of the vertical hook. If you've read my past postings about the 319, the issue is the design of the needle clamp or needle holder. It interferes with any FMQ foot/darning foot I've tried.

    I was hopeful that the new spring I got from Cathy would work, but it doesn't. It again hits in a spot that makes FMQ impossible. I'm going to try the spring on my Rotary 77 to see if that will work. I think the 319 could be a decent FMQ machine, it's finding a foot that works that's the big problem with this machine!
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    Originally Posted by Mizkaki
    Candace,

    Can you post or email me a picture of the spring on your 319. I can usually make it work. I had to bend Monica's spring a bit to make it work on her machines.

    Cathy
    the wires are a trick to install right. but when they work WOW! Do you stock those Cathy? Do they work with a slant needle?
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    Originally Posted by Muv
    Excellent idea Miriam!

    Vintagemotif - thanks for the link to the blog - excellent pictures there.
    Muv, Rain's blog is excellent! Having this blog to follow is heavenly!
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    Originally Posted by miriam
    http://shop.sew-classic.com/Low-Shan...t-SCF55417.htm - Candace I have one something like that - it is wider at the shank than the others and seems to fit around the needle holder better - I just tried to FM and it worked ok but I didn't try the other plate for it so the feed dogs were still active and I had to fight them just a little. It made a nice stitch though. I should try with the other plate. I shall return.
    I did it - I put the darning plate on and it worked - move over 15 clone!
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    Charlee,

    Looks like an industrial W&G. Yea, cool looking. But what a lot of hog wash in his comments.

    Cathy


    Originally Posted by Charlee
    I haven't seen a W&G like this one before....kinda cool!

    http://reno.craigslist.org/atq/2834953578.html
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    Old 03-18-2012, 10:14 AM
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    Originally Posted by BoJangles
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]320702[/ATTACH]Here also is the Minnesota H my hubby and FIL picked up for $20 bucks at a yard sale a couple weeks ago. It got put in my storage unit, and my bad! It hasn't been cleaned up yet either. I guess, this starts to happen when you have about 50 machines! I will get these last 3 cleaned up when it stops raining! I need a slide plate. I have tried searching with no luck. Anyway have a Minnesota H they are parting out?

    Nancy
    Nancy,

    Maybe you could resize this pic too?

    In lieu of a factory slide plate, you can fabricate one from 1/8" thick brass or steel sheet. All it takes is beveling the edges, rounding the end toward you and fitting the inner end. There you have it, a home made slide plate so you can use the machine.
    The front plate on my Minnesota ~B~ is home made. Eventually I'd like to find a factory replacement, but the home version will work for a while longer. It's been there forever as it is.

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    Miriam, are you talking about the 319? You don't need the darning plate as you can lower the feed dogs.
    Originally Posted by miriam
    I did it - I put the darning plate on and it worked - move over 15 clone!
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