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    Old 11-25-2014, 08:39 AM
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    Thanks, the pitman actually came out really quick and easy. It surprised the heck out of me...

    Cathy came over last night to help me to try and get her sewing. Fun but no success.
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    It will make a loop every time,
    It will pick up the loop occasionally
    It will drop the picked up loop every time... grrrr

    I have scans of the original manual, and an 1880's serviceman's manual for sewing machines which goes into some detail about timing and repair of most of the old brands including the G&B. Cathy and I are both researching to see if we can figure out what we are missing.
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    Old 11-25-2014, 12:14 PM
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    This isn't the same model, but I wondered if it might show enough detail to help figure out why your beautiful machine isn't stitching right. http://patentimages.storage.googleap...fs/US25730.pdf
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    Old 11-25-2014, 12:32 PM
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    Originally Posted by Champanier
    This isn't the same model, but I wondered if it might show enough detail to help figure out why your beautiful machine isn't stitching right. http://patentimages.storage.googleap...fs/US25730.pdf

    Thank you very much for trying, but that is the patent for their Lockstitch machine (later sold as the #9)

    This is a double chainstitch machine. It uses a curved upper needle that has a full length groove on BOTH sides. It also uses a semi-circular oscillating lower "needle" that uses the lower thread spool (yep, this is sorta the original two spool...)

    The stitch is does is also VERY unique. It is one of the few "stretchable" stitches made. It was not overly popular because it used three times the amount of lower thread as a regular lockstitch machines. (back then thread was EXPENSIVE)

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    Old 11-25-2014, 01:07 PM
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    From your description Steve, it sounds like maybe your little whatsamjigger is out of cinc with the do-hicky, causing the thing-a-ma-bob to not bob properly.

    Have you got a bolt stretcher?

    CD in Oklahoma
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    Old 11-25-2014, 02:17 PM
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    Originally Posted by Champanier
    This isn't the same model, but I wondered if it might show enough detail to help figure out why your beautiful machine isn't stitching right. http://patentimages.storage.googleap...fs/US25730.pdf

    This reads like Greek to me but it does appear to be an early double chainstitch with bottom needle. Might be useful if "deciphered".

    I'd think a GOOD owners manual would be more useful but I didn't see one on the web.

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    Old 11-25-2014, 03:22 PM
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    Originally Posted by jlhmnj
    I'd think a GOOD owners manual would be more useful but I didn't see one on the web.

    Jon
    Here is my copy
    http://www.victoriansweatshop.com/VS...ROVERBAKER.pdf
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    Originally Posted by jlhmnj
    This reads like Greek to me but it does appear to be an early double chainstitch with bottom needle. Might be useful if "deciphered". Jon
    Actually, looking at it closer, you both are correct, this is for a double chainstitch, just a different mechanism.

    Time to do more research myself, thanks!
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    Old 11-25-2014, 04:10 PM
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    Love the curvaceous pitman a lot! And I really like the fact that there are a number of you working on solving the stitching problem. You guys and gals are real thinkers. Nice to know that there are still people like you out there. I am really enjoying reading the play by play of the birthing of this machine ... or should I say "re-birthing"!
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    Gorgeous!! Looks like Christmas came early! Enjoy!
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    Originally Posted by SteveH

    Good reading, Thanks!

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